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Postby joe muggs » Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:31 am

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Postby jonnyrebel » Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:37 am

yea that was us lol :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Postby joe muggs » Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:02 am

Good work :P

This is what the person who he calls a "moron" in the latest article wrote:

If you actually bothered to check his myspace out, the guy you have deemed appropriate to 'sound out' has in fact revealed his true identity.

Why this was such a big deal to the donuts who write for your rag I have no idea, I can only assume that due to his nomination for the Mercury Music Prize this has roused media interest.

What makes me laugh is that this guy has been around for quite a few years now, yet you late-starters have only just cottoned on to the fact he makes incredible music.

Aphex Twin? Fatboy Slim? Bay City Rollers?

A truly spectacular fail on your part here I think and one that only shows you up of being utterly clueless about real music. Must try harder Mr Smart.

May I politely suggest that you continue to support the current crop of crap you write about daily and not try and interfere with music scenes/trends that you possess very little or no knowledge about. It only shows you up as being ignorant and ultimately ill-informed.

Oh, and the fact that you couldn't even work out that 'Kode' refers to Kode-9, who runs a label called Hyperdub which Burial releases on only exemplifies my point wouldn't you agree? Try www.google.com next time you are unsure of anything, its a very helpful search engine on the internet.

To finish off, may I congratulate you on sticking your oar in when not wanted and causing a great deal of hassle to a very humble and hard working musician. Well done.

Clueless idiots like Gordon Smart (delicious, the irony is delicious) should stick to what they know best, Coldplay: Keane and Amy's latest meltdown.

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Postby colz » Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:07 am

:D :D :D
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Postby boy_arena » Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:19 am

This will be looked back on in the future as one of the milestones of dubstep! So funny!!
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Postby carole dope » Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:35 am

I don't know it, but I'm starting to guess that The Sun is a shit newspaper isn't it?
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Postby tomity » Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:38 am

Carole Dope wrote:I don't know it, but I'm starting to guess that The Sun is a shit newspaper isn't it?


http://www.thesun.co.uk - See for yourself :)
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Postby paulie » Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:40 am

the guy from the Sun wrote:I hadn’t heard of Burial before his nomination. I’ve now listened to him and love his stuff.

Isn’t that the point of music?

Not according to all the dubstep fans who have emailed crying about their music being stolen from them.



The man has a point.
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Postby carole dope » Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:41 am

yes yes, and just found the gangsta rap article posted by Plastician, didn't knew what kind of newspaper it is...
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Postby spiderman » Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:49 am

fuck the sun.

nobody is crying bout anything, they are just disrespecting with their non-informative articles that generate all kinds of wrong hype.
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Postby joe muggs » Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:55 am

Paulie wrote:
the guy from the Sun wrote:I hadn’t heard of Burial before his nomination. I’ve now listened to him and love his stuff.

Isn’t that the point of music?

Not according to all the dubstep fans who have emailed crying about their music being stolen from them.



The man has a point.


Well there are two things going on here.

One is the question of whether all publicity is good publicity. That's endlessly debatable - and will be discussed for ever on boards like this, with opinions ranging from the dogmatic "keep it underground" brigade to people who think that anything that makes money for musicians is good. Obviously as a journo myself, I am pro-publicity, but I do respect the wishes of underground musicians for anonymity - it may be that they are signing on, have a job that doesn't square well with making what is, let's face it, dirty drugs music, don't like attracting police attention, feel that the music is more important than their face, or simply don't LIKE attention. It becomes more difficult beyond a certain level of fame, but as Kraftwerk have shown, it is possible to maintain long and hugely mainstream careers without putting your personalities up front... I think the trajectory Burial was taking it wasn't going to be sustainable maintaining his anonymity anyway, and I am guessing he and Kode 9 knew that - after all, the label has to nominate an album for the Mercury Prize and I doubt Steve would've done that if Burial wasn't ready for the publicity that inevitably comes with a nomination. These are all complex factors and can only really be discussed on a case-by-case basis as every artist's situation, needs and wants are different.

The other is that Gordon Smart has shown his arse by printing a load of nonsense and instead of either admitting it or dropping the subject is now having a go at people who pointed this out. :P
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Postby djshiva » Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:07 am

CLASSIC!!!
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Postby spiderman » Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:08 am

publicity is one thing.

but its just a lack of respect of the artist to go against his wishes and try to expose his identity, and ontop of it do a bad job causing a snowball effect of false info.

obviously he was gonna have to come clean at some point to collect the award (if he wins), but it should of been on his terms not theres.
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Postby daggus » Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:18 am

spiderman wrote:but its just a lack of respect of the artist to go against his wishes and try to expose his identity, and ontop of it do a bad job causing a snowball effect of false info.

obviously he was gonna have to come clean at some point to collect the award (if he wins), but it should of been on his terms not theres.


since when have the tabloid media been about respect in this country?

i think burial has the last laugh on this one. Shitload of free press, possible win the mercury, an he revealed himself dont forget. Given how long the issue of his identity has been building i'd say could have been lot worst.

plus dubstep community has ripped the pish out that idiot in the sun :lol:
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Postby paulie » Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:18 am

Joe Muggs wrote:
Paulie wrote:
the guy from the Sun wrote:I hadn’t heard of Burial before his nomination. I’ve now listened to him and love his stuff.

Isn’t that the point of music?

Not according to all the dubstep fans who have emailed crying about their music being stolen from them.



The man has a point.


Well there are two things going on here.

One is the question of whether all publicity is good publicity. That's endlessly debatable - and will be discussed for ever on boards like this, with opinions ranging from the dogmatic "keep it underground" brigade to people who think that anything that makes money for musicians is good. Obviously as a journo myself, I am pro-publicity, but I do respect the wishes of underground musicians for anonymity - it may be that they are signing on, have a job that doesn't square well with making what is, let's face it, dirty drugs music, don't like attracting police attention, feel that the music is more important than their face, or simply don't LIKE attention. It becomes more difficult beyond a certain level of fame, but as Kraftwerk have shown, it is possible to maintain long and hugely mainstream careers without putting your personalities up front... I think the trajectory Burial was taking it wasn't going to be sustainable maintaining his anonymity anyway, and I am guessing he and Kode 9 knew that - after all, the label has to nominate an album for the Mercury Prize and I doubt Steve would've done that if Burial wasn't ready for the publicity that inevitably comes with a nomination. These are all complex factors and can only really be discussed on a case-by-case basis as every artist's situation, needs and wants are different.

The other is that Gordon Smart has shown his arse by printing a load of nonsense and instead of either admitting it or dropping the subject is now having a go at people who pointed this out. :P


I'm not defending the journalist really, his previous articles have been typical tabloid nonsense. But some of the reaction has been pretty comical - all this stuff is a direct result of the popularity of the album. Music is there for people to listen to, people who are into "the scene" don't have a predetermined right over the music, some seem to think they do. I do realise a lot of the reaction was because this stuff came from the Sun though, which is totally justified IMO!

The anonymity thing was becoming a circus, and by posting up his details Mr Bevan has done his best to dampen that down - fair enough, it was something that could have been taken advantage of a lot more but obviously that's not what he's trying to do. I guess that should settle the mind of anyone who suspected that the anonymous thing was a marketing ploy in the first place.
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Postby xxxy » Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:18 am

Joe Muggs wrote:have a job that doesn't square well with making what is, let's face it, dirty drugs music, don't like attracting police attention


dirty drugs music? police attention?

wtf this isn't the rave scene in the 80s. How many dubstep artists have had police attention - aside from Rusko's run ins with the fashion police ;) - due to their names being out?

Police call at an address in Croydon
"Er hello madame, we need to speak to Oliver Jones please. It appears he has been making dubstep...."

For it being dirty drugs music - whilst it has been a while since I hit DMZ or FWD I haven't noticed many people shooting smack up in the corner of Plastic People or bunning crack outside Mass (the local tramps aside) and even now that a whole crowd of "ex-dnb" heads (although I hate using those 5 letters and the hyphen) have jumped on the bandwagon there doesn't seem to be high proportion of gurners at nights.
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Postby elgato » Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:19 am

Paulie wrote:
the guy from the Sun wrote:I hadn’t heard of Burial before his nomination. I’ve now listened to him and love his stuff.

Isn’t that the point of music?

Not according to all the dubstep fans who have emailed crying about their music being stolen from them.


The man has a point.


its an arrogant imposition of the common-sense, as if everyone views the world the way he does. who would begrudge him the enjoyment of the music? but trying to impose some impossibly simple-minded idea of 'the point of music'... come on
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Postby joe muggs » Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:21 am

xx xy wrote:
Joe Muggs wrote:have a job that doesn't square well with making what is, let's face it, dirty drugs music, don't like attracting police attention


dirty drugs music? police attention?

wtf this isn't the rave scene in the 80s. How many dubstep artists have had police attention - aside from Rusko's run ins with the fashion police ;) - due to their names being out?




I was only being semi-serious there - I was just pointing out that there are a whole set of reasons why people might not want their music connected to their "government name".
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Postby ajantis_art » Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:23 am

that response is complete servitude! would have to be something special to come back form that
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Postby elgato » Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:23 am

Paulie wrote:Music is there for people to listen to


would you say it isn't and can't be anything more complicated than that?!
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