Brostep / Skrillex and the Forum.

[AxeD]

It'll flop right? How can it get any support from knowledgeable people?

[Sonika]

SUBSCAPE

This! He makes some really beautiful tunes, but they're definitively brostep.

and this is based on your knowledge of the dubstep?

Dont jump all over me. I don't want to get in a dumb argument about whether or not it's brostep, but they are heavy tunes that aren't deep or dark, could be classified as "cheesy," and are possessing other typical "brostep" characteristics - would you argue that Subscape isn't brostep?

Saying "they're definitely brostep" would mean their whole catalog consists of brostep which is simply untrue. Most of their older tracks are either melodic or tearout. Don't try to school me on what is and what isn't dubstep buckaroo.

First of all, why are you talking about Subscape as a "they?" It's one guy, Anthony Peters.

Secondly, I'm not trying to school you on anything - I'm just answering your question.

Thirdly, I really don't care to argue about it - I'd say Subscape leans towards a slightly more agressive side of the bass music scene (as compared to artists like Mala, Kryptic Minds, Cyrus, etc), so I would refer to that as "brostep." If your perception of brostep is different, cool. I don't want to argue, I was just saying of the more agressive stuff, Subscape is one of my favorite artists. That's all.

[dubfordessert]

aggressive? really? i don't think his output is aggressive at all, from the tunes i've listened to only screw up gets close.

his productions are pretty light and melodic imo, granted i've not listened to loads from him

[Maccaveli]

First of all, why are you talking about Subscape as a "they?" It's one guy, Anthony Peters.

for once it's not Sonika making this mistake

[ehbes]

First of all, why are you talking about Subscape as a "they?" It's one guy, Anthony Peters.

for once it's not Sonika making this mistake

[BonerJams04]

I'll probably end up seeing it anyway.

A fool and his money...

[Molzie]

First of all, why are you talking about Subscape as a "they?" It's one guy, Anthony Peters.

He makes some really beautiful tunes, but they're definitively brostep.

[dubfordessert]

edit: nuthin

[BonerJams04]

First of all, why are you talking about Subscape as a "they?" It's one guy, Anthony Peters.

He makes some really beautiful tunes, but they're definitively brostep.

"they" as in the tunes.

Sonika wins.

[Hircine]

"HERE'S DUBBA JONNY!"

[Molzie]

could be read either way.

but yeah, in this instance

[Sexual_Chocolate]

lol... yea dont do a seckle

[Hircine]

left my umbrella in that doctor p thread...

[Molzie]

seckle101

learn from the master

[Dreadfunk]

Adapted from a reply I made to a post: The TLDR crowd can read the last paragraph.

It's indisputable that a lot of the heavier, mid range, high energy tunes that are so popular these days have deviated so much that they are no longer in the same ballpark as the deeper or more sub heavy tunes. This deviation goes both ways, as both sub genres have branched out from the original sound, carving their own niche in the scene. In light of this, I agree that there is a need for another moniker to distinguish the heavier tunes from the deeper tunes. The biggest complaint I hear from people is that they just want to be able to distinguish between the two easily and I think that’s an entirely fair request as they are two very different styles. So we should call the heavy stuff brostep, and leave the term dubstep for the deeper sub heavy tunes, right? That’s what Rusko called it, right? I wouldn’t be so quick to accept that, regardless of your preference. The term brostep is exceptionally poor and unlikely to fully catch on because it is inseparable from the derogatory connotations that come along with the word 'bro'. On top of that, and more importantly, I doubt that any of the producers who make these tunes will ever give up calling their music dubstep, nor should they have to.

If it were up to me, the community would take a page from breaks and call it “tear out dubstep” or something of the like, and the deeper tunes could be dubbed (no pun intended) something like “deep dubstep” or something similar. The core of this issue is that "brostep" has just as much claim to call itself dubstep as any other flavor, regardless of the origins of dubstep. The funny thing is that when dubstep was invented it was some people messing around with 2 step garage and seeing where they could take it. Electronic music is all about taking what's out there and pushing it to the next level. And then after that you push it again and again, and before you know it you have so many offshoot divergent styles that it will blow your mind. The key here is that they are divergent styles. One is not more valid than the other; to say otherwise would be incredibly biased.

The way I look at it, dubstep is what house was back in the day. It's still relatively new and it's just now creating all these crazy offshoots that no one ever imagined. But you know what? You still call a lot of different music at around 120bpm with a four on the floor beat house music. Just because electro house is off the wall compared to disco house, doesn't make it any less house. The same goes for breaks. You still call tear out tracks breaks, no matter how heavy it gets and how far away the sound gets from the original breaks tunes. And that's how I see these divergent styles of dubstep. It's all still dubstep, whatever you want to say about it. Look at any genre. Drum and Bass is still Drum and Bass whether it has off the wall jump up wobbles or deep violins.

I believe that no one style can claim ownership of the entire genre, and that’s the way it should be. If you look at nearly every electronic music genre, they are almost entirely defined by A: Tempo, and B: Beat pattern. The tonality of the music very rarely makes for a new genre, save for a few exceptions like Glitch Hop, which tends to vary in tempo. What we need here are Sub-Genre titles, and sub genre titles often contain the original genre title within them, and for good reason. No one is likely to give up their claim to be a dubstep producer, no matter what style they produce, and they shouldn’t have to.

[Molzie]

[Molzie]

tl;dr

inb4merge

[dubfordessert]

brool cory sto

[BonerJams04]

Hay guyz, what r goin on in dis tread?

[Hircine]