New secret weapon! - Modulator madness badness!

[futures_untold]

Cableguys new Midishaper RAWKZ!

Try it out and watch the demo videos at http://www.cableguys.de/midi-shaper.html


What does it do?

It allows you to modulate any MIDI assignable control in any of your soft synths, effects plugins and hardware using custom drawn LFO shapes!

So what?
It means you can automate every control on plugins which don't have built in modulators. Or to modulate controls with custom LFO shapes on plugins with shit modulation options.....

This plugin is really cool! Only been messing round with it for about an hour and I can see it opens up a lot of possibilities. It's a bit clunky to set up in Cubase, but once its up and running it's cool.

Advantages of Midishaper vs automation are that you can draw in a curve much easier giving you more control. You can also adjust LFO speeds and amplitudes on the fly. Furthermore you can use the MIDI learn feature on your synth and assign one LFO to several different sources. This is handy as I've not found another way to do this in Cubase.

Just messing about on Massive, I can already assign the macros to loads of parameters, i.e filter cutoff, waveshape, envelope attack etc.

To take it a step further, I can then assign each macro to an LFO on Midishaper. this can create some crazy modulations.

To take it even further I could then put an automation track on Midishaper! although I've not tried this, I can imagine it might be useful for changing LFO rates etc. The possibilities are endless, I really like this plugin!

Need I say more?


Still don't get it??
I give up. So should you. Go away...

[Electric_Head]

you know Reaper has this natively built in? right?

[futures_untold]

you know Reaper has this natively built in? right?

Reapers built in 'Parameter Modulation' LFO is shite imo. I find it slightly confusing setting the base line location for each control nor does it have custome shapes either...

The 'Link From Parameter' control is cool, but again I've not managed to get an LFO to drive mutlkiple parameters using that option.

I've not used the 'Audio Control Signal' envelope follower, so I can't comment on that.

What's more, not everyone uses Reaper sadly....

[Electric_Head]

I find the parameter modulation to be pretty effective really.
But as you say, the base line can be fiddly.
I just start my automation at 0 db and up the bass line setting until I`m happy.
Also, have you found the option to draw an lfo into the automation lane?
I find this to also be a pretty powerful modulator.

[Electric_Head]

Sweet looking plugin though.
I`m on the download now.
I`ll definitely give this a swing tonight.

[futures_untold]

I just start my automation at 0 db and up the bass line setting until I`m happy.

Pun intended?

Also, have you found the option to draw an lfo into the automation lane?

Automation lanes are fine, but personally I find working with LFO's easier for cyclical modulations.

I tend to use automation lanes for fades and changes to a parameters base line position while sequencing 'variations' throughout a track.

Yeah bru, check it out. It really is a fantastic tool, and it pisses over the only alternative that I know of - Xfer LFOtool.

[Electric_Head]

The interface is good looking enough.

Pun? what pun?

[Gurnumsbug]

This is pretty rad! Thanks for the link futures_untold
I Will be checking this out after I get some sleep

[VirtualMark]

cubase also has this built in, you can set lfo's to modulate any parameter on midi plugins. i'll check this out tho and compare it, i guess this could make modulation easier.

[lyons238]

cant you pretty much do the same thing in reason to just by routing the thors CV1 out into whatever you want to modulate and control it with thors modulation matrix? although probably not as many options as this plugin, but still the basic idea.

[VirtualMark]

ok this plugin is really cool! only been messing round with it for about an hour, and i can see it opens up a lot of possibilities. its a bit clunky to set up on cubase, but once its up and running its cool.

advantages vs automation are that you can draw in your curve much easier, giving you more control, you can also adjust lfo speeds and amplitudes on the fly. also you can use the midi learn feature on your synth and assign one lfo to several different sources. this is handy as i've not found another way to do this in cubase.

just messing about on massive, i can already assign the macros to loads of parameters, i.e filter cutoff, waveshape, envelope attack etc.

to take it a step further, i can then assign each macro to an lfo on midishaper. this can create some crazy modulations.

to take it even further i could then put an automation track on midishaper! although i've not tried this, i can imagine it might be useful for changing lfo rates etc. the possibilities are endless, i really like this plugin.

one thing i don't know is if its possible to assign midishaper to an effects plugin?

[2mb1o]

cubase also has this built in

Renoise too.

[futures_untold]

Is it possible to assign Midishaper to an effects plugin?

Yup, so long as the effect plugin is controllable using MIDI CCs.

[daft cunt]

cubase also has this built in

Renoise too.

Not quite as user friendly as MidiShaper when it comes to drawing precise shapes tho.

Didn't know you were using Renoise btw, let's do a collab so you can learn a thing or 2

[Jakob - Cableguys]

Just stumbled across this thread - nice! If you have any feedback, let us know, we are always open for feature wishes and improvements.

As soon as beta is over, and we start selling, we'll do a special introductory price of EUR 10/USD 15 (shorty afterwards it will be EUR 20/USD 30). Join the newsletter in our site if you want to be informed as soon as we release it. http://www.cableguys.de/midi-shaper.html

[nowaysj]

cubase also has this built in

Renoise too.

Need I say flstudio as well?

A lot of these guys' plugs are redundant, but are still strangely useful despite their redundancy. Go figure.

[hifi]

would have to check this out. by the looks of it, it could be somewhat useful for me

[RandoRando]

cubase also has this built in

Renoise too.

Need I say flstudio as well?

A lot of these guys' plugs are redundant, but are still strangely useful despite their redundancy. Go figure.

i think i know what your talking about that does this in FL, but just for kicks, could you say what you are talking about?

[futures_untold]

I wonder if it could be used to modulate controls in Reason?

[Electric_Head]

I wonder if it could be used to modulate controls in Reason?

Good question

Is it possible to control Reason's midi cc msgs via rewire?
if so then `m sure this will work.