so whats with the lack of actual production talk on here

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:55 pm

jack sparrow1 wrote:why not have a blog with dloadable pdf documents?

then we can pidgeon hole new tips and they can be dloaded if and when needed

plus people can be alerted when new bits get uploaded

good idea. who's going to start the blog?

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:59 pm

You are Seck - cheers for sorting that out, nice one, hoorah, etc

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 5:07 pm

Shonky wrote:You are Seck - cheers for sorting that out, nice one, hoorah, etc

yeah sure, with all the time that i don't have at the moment. blog's are fun to read, but a headache to maintain.

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 5:09 pm

the whole dnb being formulmatic argument doesn't sit well with me as a dnb producer. just because a load of people seem to lack the creative drive to do something different or outside the box doesn't mean the genre as a whole is all the same ol shit.
there are plenty of artists pushing the boundaries that don't get the exposure they deserve. while there is plenty of dancefloor fodder that gets churned out and plenty of copycats trying to make a name for themselves there is also the flipside if you dig a bit just like any genre.
just because the knowledge is out there on the grid on "how to make my reese sound like x producers" doesn't mean you should clone it.
the whole point of a production forum is to gain knowledge on how things work and add it to your arsenal. what's done with the tools ultimately falls on the producer, and what gets released, whether its something samey sounding or something new falls on the labels (unfortunately alot of them aren't willing to take a chance on something thats iffy on the units it will shift)

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 5:16 pm

Deadly Habit wrote: just because the knowledge is out there on the grid on "how to make my reese sound like x producers" doesn't mean you should clone it.

seen. i wish 3/4 of the people on the doa grid thought the same as you. clearly that's not the case, the unsigned section being proof of what i'm saying.

dnb 2006 is a formula, and i don't think you're going to convince me that's it's not. i've been on doa since 2001, so i'm not just talking out my bum about this. i love dnb, and wish things hadn't ended up as they did. it's cookie cutter music now.
here's the crashing amens, and here's the token build up, and here's the token drop out, and let's end it off with a reese stab and blade runner sample. YAWN.

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 5:20 pm

check the tune synesthesia on my myspace

narcossist · Post by **narcossist** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 5:36 pm

seckle wrote: this music is and has always been about experimentation.

No one mentioned road maps. There hasn't been a "how to sound like loefah" thread ever to my knowledge. If you mean that by choosing to use an lfo bass producer x is a loefah clone then nigh on the whole fuckin scene should be payin mans royalties. Lfo's were what characterised dubstep in 2006, its harder to write tracks without them becuse of the momentum they add, but now they've been sufficently stigmatised next year there will be something different.

What we've been saying in this thread is essentially that music "production" not writing should be open for wider and more constructive debate. This means whatever the content of the track as an overall package it should hopefully sound better and be more enjoyable for the listener.

re the blog, i'll do it what do you reckon should be on it?

jack sparrow1 · Post by **jack sparrow1** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 5:59 pm

narcossist wrote:
seckle wrote: this music is and has always been about experimentation.
No one mentioned road maps. There hasn't been a "how to sound like loefah" thread ever to my knowledge. If you mean that by choosing to use an lfo bass producer x is a loefah clone then nigh on the whole fuckin scene should be payin mans royalties. Lfo's were what characterised dubstep in 2006, its harder to write tracks without them becuse of the momentum they add, but now they've been sufficently stigmatised next year there will be something different.

What we've been saying in this thread is essentially that music "production" not writing should be open for wider and more constructive debate. This means whatever the content of the track as an overall package it should hopefully sound better and be more enjoyable for the listener.

re the blog, i'll do it what do you reckon should be on it?

i reckon we have sub catagories

bass

drums

synth

sampling

mastering/eq

melody

structure

subframe · Post by **subframe** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:04 pm

beyond some basic physics (or modelled physics, if ya digital), production can not be taught online, IMO.

One needs to twist some knobs, hear some stuff on good monitors (and yes, they do matter), and write some really shit tracks, before you get a grip.

I think this is why most 'amateur' production forums are pretty weak. Unless you have a solid understanding of production and are after very specific ideas/answers, there's not a whole lot to be said.

Now, i'ma go post a production question, lol

jack sparrow1 · Post by **jack sparrow1** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:12 pm

One needs to twist some knobs, hear some stuff on good monitors (and yes, they do matter), and write some really shit tracks, before you get a grip.

nice one

narcossist · Post by **narcossist** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:18 pm

right, blog is here whether or not anyone wants to take part is entirely optional. If you want to be an author on it pm me and i'll send you an invite.

http://dubprodata.blogspot.com/

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