Mumble wrote:Id be embarrased to listen to Dubstep on a phone, whats the point unless your phone has a built in sub.
i actually cant stand people who listen to their phones on buses. especially not if its bassy. such a waste.
another thing, if all these kids jumping on the music werent happening. music and the scene wouldnt be happening. it would just be a shitload of 50 year old men producing the same shit over and over. at some point, i was one of those kids - and i see why an influx is needed.
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Waefah wrote:I don't mind a bit of bassline but that said I don't own one bassline tune. Whereas I must have about 500 or so dubstep plates. Money permitting I'd have even more!
I own 1 bassline tune, its the only 1 i will ever need tho, cos every one sounds exactly the same lol.
Also too many youths jumping on the scene these days.
what?
thats possibly the most retarded thing ive ever heard.
Wtf? How does that bother you?
because im what you would class as young and really disagree with the fact that young people ruin music. whos gna carry the flame and keep a scene alive if young people ruin scenes? i bet some miserable late twenties blokes sed that about skream and benga when they wer goin to the garage raves and look wht they've achieved.
the above poster has a point, but it really does get frustrating when you play at a night and some floppy fringed student fuck drops tunes that you don't even have, made by people you've known for over 4 years. And even more frustrating is the fact that you really can't expect them to care, why would they? Its just music to them, and you should have been spending your time learning to make a real living instead of holding onto lofty morals about something so intangible and fluid. Curses.
ha this music ain't dying anytime soon. It's too [r]evolutionary. And a big signifier of that is all the youngsters being bang into it, producing it, dj'ing it in their bedrooms, who will come thru to be big players in the years to come, full of fresh ideas and innovations.
I'd give it a good 10-15 years at least, in one way shape or form, even if it means it ebbing and flowing into the limelight and out again, and even if it means producers leaving to pursue other interests, there'll always be new producers ready to take their place. And with something so intrinsically linked to technological advances (when it comes to production and creativity), it ain't going away for a good while to come.
And what exactly denotes a music's death... drum n bass is alive and kicking after so many people foresaw it's demise a multitude of times (yes that old chestnut of comparisons - but it's a valid one) - clubs are rammed and youngsters are as much into it as a generation ago. That bodes well for this music, even if it may also have a few popularity contractions to come during it's lifespan.
I think a lot of people have a certain idea of what dubstep should ideally be and for a lot of those people dubstep has moved on and therefore, in their eyes, declined creatively.
I think a certain style of dubstep has died over the last few years and so the genre as a whole doesn't interest me as much as it used to, but for others its probably as good/better than ever before.
Probably in a few years time people who've got into dubstep in the past year will be moaning about how it isn't like it was in 2009.
OK
as someone who has been involved in the bassline scene before (for about 6 years) i have seen it rise and fall.
It is true, that not a lot of money is made in the scene as the vinyls do not sell anymore due to leaks ect.
If you really want someone to blame though, the best option is to look at the dj's making monthly mix CD's with the latest tunes on monthes (sometimes years) before they become available to buy legitimately.
owning the cd, gives the user the option to listen to a tune over and over until they are bored of it. and by the time it is released, it has been overplayed.
How can someone expect a record to sell, when the tune leaked literally years ago?
Working in a record shop at the time, i noticed that people would be asking for the tunes on vinyl monthes before they were released which is not possible, and once the tune is released, people say "ahh its old, it was on jamie duggans cd 3 years ago".
There is a big "hype" in bassline at the moment about how much money u can make off it (boasting about ya "p's") which shows that a lot of producers are in it for the money so if this means the scene is "dead" then fair enough, but there is still a massive amount of producers, making good tunes & there probably always will be.
In order to avoid, this kind of thing happening to any scene, you have to think long and hard, about how to promote your music. and also who you'r giving it to. For instance, Rusko Or Coki tunes always sell well, maybe it is a coincidence that not many people get passed the tunes prior to the release hence the reason why they dont leak. If u get a DJ of high caliber playing your music in their sets, 9 times out of ten it'll get signed anyway. so theres no need to pass the tune out much further. I know as a producer that sometimes it can be hard to keep the tunes to yourself (especially if you'v made a banger and you wanna show it off) but it is sometimes in your own interest.
another point maybe worth bringing up, is that now, in the bassline scene 0% of dj's use vinyl. So why are the aspiring dj's that watch their favourite dj play in clubs, totally of CD's going to go buy vinyl?
If N-type or any other big DJ used only CD's most of their fans would be enclined to copy them. And a lot of younger/Less clued up DJ's don't understand about the so called "Dubplate Code Of Conduct" If they can download a tune for free they will play it off CD and this likens them to their favourite DJ's
This is also why DnB still has a big market for vinyl, compared to genres like bassline & electro. Simply because the big DJ's cut dubplates which play on vinyl decks. Its basicly just setting an example for any aspiring DJ
So if u ask me. The best way to keep a scene full of life is to keep the vinyl alive. That way producers have incentive to work hard on their tunes and they can also make a living off it.
Maybe you noticed, i have strong feelings about this subject which is why this post is so long
Who knows, maybe i shud become a novelist.
** Dj SnipaZ **(Bassclash/BUN/ResoFantoms/Bass Punch/Rottun)
This man serves as my visual metaphor for most types of 'electronic' music that is subject to peaks and troughs.
every now and again it pops back up, no matter where you are and no matter what you are doing, sometimes it fucks you off and sometimes you just can't get enough of it.
You can't really compare two "scenes" and say "will this end up like that".
Sometimes, genres, movements and musical styles die. By die we could mean different kinds of "death"
1)they stop being made
2)they stop being relevant and speaking to their audience
3)they stop being innovative and moving forward
4)they don't appeal to us as much as they once did
For scenario 1 to happen, most of the time the audience dries up, the distributors close and the majority of people move on to something else. but even then, people often still continue making the music, even if it's only a small minority of people. So even that death is not final.
Probably could go on, but basically the answer is NO. and if you're thinking this is dying, well it's still moving forward, still speaking to it's audience and continues to be made. So that's very much alive if you ask me.
most of the threads on here that talk about this or that "dying" is more like scenario 4.. and the only thing that is dying is the interest of the people writing the posts.
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