Would u pay for an exclusive hi bit DJ mix ???

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Would u pay for an exclusive hi bit DJ mix ???

Post by dubmugga » Sat Dec 17, 2005 10:31 pm

If so how much ???

seems people are prepared to pay a higher cost for latest tunes so why not mixes ???

I realize they are supposedly promotional tools for DJ's to get bookings but they have become more than that yet most people place no value on them

maybe something to add to chefs site ???

we're sitting on as good a mix of original stuff as any i've heard, even better than our "property" mix yet am trying to line up some top UK grime/dubstep MC's to flow over it...

...so when ready it should be worth something right ???

so.... :?:
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Re: Would u pay for an exclusive hi bit DJ mix ???

Post by moving_ninja » Sat Dec 17, 2005 10:42 pm

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yet most people place no value on them

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wtf?

Don't really understand what you mean there..

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Post by dubmugga » Sat Dec 17, 2005 10:49 pm

i mean DJ's make mixes of some pretty exclusive stuff and put em out there for free...

...they don't place any value on them enough to think it could be worth something for someone to pay for it

yet what is the difference between say the underground CD mix of destuctive which you can buy in the shops and a burn of the latest free download by paul rose, sumone or el sid ???
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Post by rickyricardo » Sat Dec 17, 2005 11:24 pm

I think you've answered your own question here.

If you think the mix is good enough to charge for, and worth the expenses of getting it mastered, pressed, packaged, etc...then go for it.

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Post by alex bk-bk » Sun Dec 18, 2005 1:07 am

i wouldnrt pay more than a fiver for a mix CD considering most people post their sets for free, mkay

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Post by j_j » Sun Dec 18, 2005 3:14 am

init yawn dubmugga.ur so boring with ur ancient ideas.prick.

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Post by luke.envoy » Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:58 am

i wouldnt pay for a mix.
especially if its a promotional tool which they often are, for the dj or label affiliation, or both

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Post by cogent » Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:25 am

I don't think I'd pay either... I'd say some of the new mixes floating around are worthy of getting a proper CD release that I'd pay for but i see these mixes as bait to then go find and buy the tracks in the mix..

Its a good promo tool for the labels / dj's and also gives something back to the punter...

IMO i don't think paying for a mix you can d/l online would work.. but i did pay for the 'Back to Underground' CD mix, 1) cos of the selection, 2) cos Destructive are a great label and i wanna hear more!! 3) cos it was reasonable priced and i get a package not a file that lives on my hard drive..

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Post by dubmugga » Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:59 am

J_J wrote:init yawn dubmugga.ur so boring with ur ancient ideas.prick.
jealousy will get you nowhere suckhole, try putting some work in instead of crawling up everyones arse...

...my point is, for the non vinyl buying music enthusiast who gets to hear a tune on a good quality mix already blended into more quality trax is not going to make them hunt out the vinyl or want to buy the stand alone tune

as a promo tool for the DJ to get bookings it does nothing if he's in germany and i'm in NZ, about all it does is give a lookout for hot labels...

...if hi bit mixes by top DJ's were available online i'd pay a bit more for up front pre mixed tunes cos that's how i like it in my van or at home

i understand it's different if you're a DJ but the majority of the buying, listening public aren't and want pre mixed tunes, I reckon, not stand alone trax hence the always popular compilation CD...

...the problem still comes back to the ease of piracy and maybe a loss of revenue if the option to DL was available for less, then one wouldn't neccessarily buy the CD so a bit of cross format competition might ensue

however the lower costs online means less markup for retailers and distributors so it might all even out in the end...
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Post by alex bk-bk » Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:09 pm

yeah but mate, look at the responses you've got in this thread. if you consider this as a bit of market research its further proof that the scene isn't structured that way.
There's an infrastructure in place for a reason - at the moment i'd say it was working very well. It's still a tiny scene when you step back and look at it in context - and nobody is going to start making big shifts towards a more consumer-driven scene with more CDs to buy becuase it's just not worth the investment at the moment.

am i right?

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Post by ufo over easy » Sun Dec 18, 2005 3:44 pm

No, I wouldn't. There's so many free ones out there that it just doesn't make sense. I could be spending that money on tunes.
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Post by dubmugga » Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:39 pm

exactly my point UFO...

for those who aren't buying tunes, they are getting something of value for nothing and artists are missing out on another revenue stream

danny macmillan and tipper are among those who have recently put up DL only albums...

http://djdownload.com/album-display.php?S=21685

http://tipper.addictech.com/

...be interesting to see how they pan out

i think we're gonna put up indy trax and a pre mix to cater for both...

thanx for the feedback, yes even you J_J :wink:
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Post by seckle » Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:57 pm

the point of putting out a mix cd, is that it gives you a certain amount of credibility and currency within the electronic dance scene. radio stations, magazines, booking agents, venues and shops are more inclined to take you seriously when you've had a legitimate release on either cd or vinyl.
in 2005 nobody's going to take you seriously having a mp3 mix for sale on the net. what's the incentive to pay for it, when the net is flooded with thousands of free mixes? there's still a huge number of people that like to actually have a product in their hand with artwork and a case rather than a bunch of 1's and 0's on a hard disk.
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Post by ufo over easy » Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:05 pm

dubmugga wrote:exactly my point UFO...

for those who aren't buying tunes, they are getting something of value for nothing and artists are missing out on another revenue stream
Firstly, what makes you think someone who doesn't like to buy tunes will buy mixes?

Secondly, most of the free mixes on the net are not by artists, but by fans and bedroom DJs - the incentive for them is not money, but a bit of attention, making a name for themselves or whatever.
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Post by dubmugga » Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:23 pm

2005 is history...

...it's 2006 and beyond i'm concerned with
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Post by alex bk-bk » Mon Dec 19, 2005 1:43 am

can you explain why you're so keen to give dubstep the itunes treatment?

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Post by dubmugga » Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:22 am

^^^to bring dubstep into the 21st century as far as promotion and distribution of the music while levelling the playing field for international artists not linked to the *cultural* aspect in london...

...and UFO from my own experience I'd rather hear and buy a mix of lots a tunes than just fork out for one

secondly the bedroom DJ doesn't have a license to reproduce and broadcast the tunes unless given express permission by the artist but if the tunes aren't registered with a copyright collection agency then i don't suppose it really matters cos once in the public domain everything is fair game...

...I'm grateful for the inclusion of our tunes in and availability of free download mixes and like i said that'll do me cos all i want to do is hear them in a mix not buy them individually or play them out

and seckle if you check that danny macmilan thing you'll see you can DL the cover and credits ( i should know cos I designed it to their specs)

oh and you have heard of CD burners ???

apparently you can record your 1's and 0's on to a CD and play it away from your puter :wink:

the incentive to pay is because it is mixed by a bigboy producer with up front tunes you won't get anywhere else
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Post by ufo over easy » Mon Dec 19, 2005 11:59 am

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Post by andythetwig » Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:50 pm

dubmugga wrote:the incentive to pay is because it is mixed by a bigboy producer with up front tunes you won't get anywhere else
like you?

mug, you talk about money WAY too much. Your attitude to this scene is so different from anyone else's, sometimes I wonder if you're on the same planet, never mind different sides of the world!

This is yet another question about how to use the scene to generate cash, like your t-shirts. Just another sign you have completely got the wrong end of the stick. And your attempts to pitch yourself as one of the "top 5 producers" is pathetic. Your design/music (the little I've seen of it) isn't even that bad - it's just the constant tubthumping annoys the shit out of everyone...

All the producers I've spoken to are modest, interested in other's opinions, caring about "the competition", and definitely not in it for the money.

The next time I see or hear "thingummy productions" it should be on the bottom of a flyer, on a tracklist, a blog, a free promo cd, anything, but this fucking board. That's the only time I would begin to consider buying your shit.

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Post by andythetwig » Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:57 pm

http://dubstep.forumsplace.com/message791.html

that's how to make a name for yourself in dubstep...

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