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parson · Post by **parson** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:33 pm

my story reflects mbp's about 100%

j rock · Post by **j rock** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:34 pm

i'm a designer. i love it.

bagelator · Post by **bagelator** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:34 pm

metalboxproducts wrote:I'm unemployed. I used to be a retail store manager. Couldn't really be arsed motivating people who clearly couldn't be arsed either. So fucked off and just sit on my arse all day

snap. i graduated university in july and have just started getting the old jobseekers/dole money. big pimping. gwan, gizza job

electric eliminator · Post by **electric eliminator** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:08 pm

self employed spark, between jobs at the mo...

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:24 pm

metalboxproducts wrote:
ms hathaway wrote:
metalboxproducts wrote:I'm unemployed. I used to be a retail store manager. Couldn't really be arsed motivating people who clearly couldn't be arsed either. So fucked off and just sit on my arse all day
do you guys have fantastic unemployment benefits or something?
No i'm fucking skint. But i refuse to back to a job that is soul destroying. I really can't stress that anough

Good man. I did it the other way round and stayed on the dole (with the occasional cash in hand job) before circumstances dictated otherwise. Whoever said work's good for the soul obviously had a good/well-paying/both job or is a mental.

I'm working for the government, paying solicitors to help emotionally devastated people fight in the courts. If they do get a settlement, we then take our share back from it. Always nice hearing solicitors bitch on about how much money they could make in the private sector - fuckin go on then ya bastards.

FYI - they make £25 an hour travelling and waiting to do something (plust mileage/travel expenses). Might well cost £20,000 to represent one side to decide whether their kid might go into care or not. Apparently, it's £100,000 p/a to keep kids in care - no I couldn't figure where the money goes either.

In case you've got any racist folks who bombard you with how much asylum seekers cost the country, you can inform them that it's a damn sight less than junkie, alcoholic, low self-esteem, violent, neglectful parents who seem to have six kids before figuring out that they can't look after one - and they're generally white british. Might be over-generalising a bit but I've seen some right nightmare cases come through and it doesn't put humanity in the most glowing light. I think the one that really stuck in my mind was a smackhead couple that were pimping out their own kids to a local paedo ring for skag money.

Would look for something else, but apart from sales, finance, shop/bar work and other tedious jobs, doesn't seem to be a lot around. Either that or get deeply in debt to train up for a job that might not even be available (or I've lost intereste in) when I qualify. The whole idea of interviews just fills me with that sense of ennui that you should rightfully feel when someone says "so how long have you been interested in becoming a financial advisor?"

At least they let me get away with a four day week, which makes things a bit easier. Money's not so good, but when I'm out the door, I'm gone.

A real good book to read on the problems of society associated with work is Madeline Bunting's "Willing Slaves". Anxiety Culture's a good website for explanations on corporate disinformation and the unnecessity of keeping people constantly employed.

vertigo · Post by **vertigo** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:30 pm

Investment banker

hate it, but provides the money for doing stuff I really like

parson · Post by **parson** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:00 pm

vertigo wrote:Investment banker

hate it, but provides the money for doing stuff I really like

have you seen this movie:

spaceboy · Post by **spaceboy** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:22 pm

metalboxproducts wrote:
ms hathaway wrote:
metalboxproducts wrote:I'm unemployed. I used to be a retail store manager. Couldn't really be arsed motivating people who clearly couldn't be arsed either. So fucked off and just sit on my arse all day
do you guys have fantastic unemployment benefits or something?
No i'm fucking skint. But i refuse to back to a job that is soul destroying. I really can't stress that anough

There is joy in everything you do.

Sitting about is soul destroying in my opinion.

vertigo · Post by **vertigo** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:24 pm

Parson wrote:
vertigo wrote:Investment banker

hate it, but provides the money for doing stuff I really like
have you seen this movie:

great one !! years before The Sopranos ....

how did you guess I am Italian ?

dopedragon · Post by **dopedragon** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:54 pm

Spaceboy wrote:Sitting about is soul destroying in my opinion.

the quivering remains of my soul and pancaked buttcheeks would have to agree.

respect to the unemployed/self-employed massive!!

parson · Post by **parson** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:30 pm

vertigo wrote:
Parson wrote:
vertigo wrote:Investment banker

hate it, but provides the money for doing stuff I really like
have you seen this movie:

great one !! years before The Sopranos ....

how did you guess I am Italian ?

do you remember the twist about the investment banker guy that works on wall-street
thats what yr post reminded me of

dynamixuk · Post by **dynamixuk** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:42 pm

i get payed to do free DJ/music tech workshops for "diseffect" youth..hate that word by these. www.generator.org.uk

i also teach dj tech (btec 1st) in a high school in my city(cant beleive the little fukas get DJ class in school now wtf is all that about)

do a lil bit of djing round city,

promote dubstepneys

when i grow up i want to be a astronaut

Rob H · Post by **Rob H** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:49 pm

Dynamixuk wrote: i also teach dj tech in a high school in my city

dynamixuk · Post by **dynamixuk** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:56 pm

yer man thats what i though but hey who am i to question our education system

is good in a way as it's kind of a reward for em stickin in at school, not right that all the trouble makers get all the perks

spooky · Post by **spooky** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:00 pm

Dynamixuk wrote:yer man thats what i though but hey who am i to question our education system

is good in a way as it's kind of a reward for em stickin in at school, not right that all the trouble makers get all the perks

they did that in my 2nd secondary skool..........

deamonds · Post by **deamonds** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:31 pm

SPOOKY wrote:
Dynamixuk wrote:yer man thats what i though but hey who am i to question our education system

is good in a way as it's kind of a reward for em stickin in at school, not right that all the trouble makers get all the perks
they did that in my 2nd secondary skool..........

id b top of the class if had that in my secondary school

fubar · Post by **fubar** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:33 pm

was plastering, signing on & back to part time college after this week and theyve finally got their fucking act together and got a new studio with aload of mackie gear so im loving it.

metalboxproducts · Post by **metalboxproducts** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:33 pm

Spaceboy wrote:
metalboxproducts wrote:
ms hathaway wrote:
metalboxproducts wrote:I'm unemployed. I used to be a retail store manager. Couldn't really be arsed motivating people who clearly couldn't be arsed either. So fucked off and just sit on my arse all day
do you guys have fantastic unemployment benefits or something?
No i'm fucking skint. But i refuse to back to a job that is soul destroying. I really can't stress that anough
There is joy in everything you do.

Sitting about is soul destroying in my opinion.

I do actually make music all day. So i do have something to do.
It's very hard to find joy in a job that you hate with people you don't like much and who like you just as little. Dealing with arseholes all day who treat you like a worthless shit. Resenting every second you spend there. It taking all your energy so you don't have any left to do the things you do enjoy. Getting up at five in the morning and working intil 7/8 pm.
Having princaples that are at the complete opposite to those of your company. Having a boss that doesn't like it when you have to go to hospital and then making you feel bad that your ill........I could go on but i've got far more joyfull things to do Spaceboy

deamonds · Post by **deamonds** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:49 pm

metalboxproducts wrote:
Spaceboy wrote:
metalboxproducts wrote:
ms hathaway wrote:
metalboxproducts wrote:I'm unemployed. I used to be a retail store manager. Couldn't really be arsed motivating people who clearly couldn't be arsed either. So fucked off and just sit on my arse all day
do you guys have fantastic unemployment benefits or something?
No i'm fucking skint. But i refuse to back to a job that is soul destroying. I really can't stress that anough
There is joy in everything you do.

Sitting about is soul destroying in my opinion.
I do actually make music all day. So i do have something to do.
It's very hard to find joy in a job that you hate with people you don't like much and who like you just as little. Dealing with arseholes all day who treat you like a worthless shit. Resenting every second you spend there. It taking all your energy so you don't have any left to do the things you do enjoy. Getting up at five in the morning and working intil 7/8 pm.
Having princaples that are at the complete opposite to those of your company. Having a boss that doesn't like it when you have to go to hospital and then making you feel bad that your ill........I could go on but i've got far more joyfull things to do Spaceboy

spaceboy just got hotted

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:44 pm

Spaceboy wrote: There is joy in everything you do.

Sitting about is soul destroying in my opinion.

Most work is soul-destroying. Noticed when I'm doing less hours that I spend less, drink less, buy less tat and generally my outgoings decrease substantially.

Spending an entire week in a job you tolerate with little reward means that you're far more likely to require the rewards of booze, drugs, and those occassional acquisitions that make it bearable.

Personally, I don't think that sitting around doing nothing is ever actually doing nothing. People need time to reflect and relax and consider - never having the chance to do this is far more destructive to one's self I think.

I know people that are quite close to mentally ill from overwork, who then spend the entire weekend off their tits trying to enjoy the precious little free time they have and never actually taking time to rest. Sleep's very under-rated as a good thing in this society.

I'm quite interested in how we manage to have so much technology to reduce the amount of work yet we still have more and more pointless occupations to keep everyone from having more time to themselves.

Interestingly, when there were the three day weeks in the 70's, the actual manufacturing output stayed relatively level with when people were doing five days, and overtime now is said to reduce productivity in many regards as people are too tired to function correctly when they're doing their allotted hours.

There are a lot of pointless folks in middle-management who are only too happy to come up with more time and money wasteful ideas to justify their worthless position - when it fucks up they generally seem to get promoted or moved to another department. Any ideas I can remember having to improve workflow or reduce bureacracy have generally been disregarded, as it would point out that the person that came up with the initial idea was wrong, and management seems to have a great level of intellectual insecurity in admitting a mistake. Seems to be the same in most companies from the folks I've chatted to.

I calculated that if they took up my idea, it would save approximately 3 months worth of work a year. If we worked more towards work reduction rather than a "he who dies with the most toys wins" attitude, society as a whole would be far better off.

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