New sound separation technique on Funky Worm

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Post by a_sn » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:01 pm

contakt321 wrote:You have to listen to understand - the technique they use isolates JUST the synth from Funky Worm, as I understand, you should be able to isolate any of the instruments.
Can Melodyne (or for that matter anything else) even isolate the synth within the track as it is? If so I'd really love to see that, even though I doubt it a bit ;). And yup, you can isolate anything you want to here, and more than that, I mean you can do anything even senseless stuff, you can even try to turn a sound into a whole nother unrelated sound hehe.
futures_untold wrote:Doesn't Adobe Adition / Cool Edit allow for this kinda thingywizzardry?
Yup, but it doesn't have the power of editing it with Photoshop, it's more basic ;).
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Post by contakt321 » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:09 pm

The next version of Melodybe, called Melodyne DNA I believe can. It can even break apart notes in chords so you change stuff from major to minor.

Insane right?
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Post by abZ » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:10 pm

contakt321 wrote:You have to listen to understand - the technique they use isolates JUST the synth from Funky Worm, as I understand, you should be able to isolate any of the instruments.
I know that is why I posted in the thread. Save it for later.
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Post by abZ » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:12 pm

A_SN wrote:
contakt321 wrote:You have to listen to understand - the technique they use isolates JUST the synth from Funky Worm, as I understand, you should be able to isolate any of the instruments.
Can Melodyne (or for that matter anything else) even isolate the synth within the track as it is? If so I'd really love to see that, even though I doubt it a bit ;). And yup, you can isolate anything you want to here, and more than that, I mean you can do anything even senseless stuff, you can even try to turn a sound into a whole nother unrelated sound hehe.
futures_untold wrote:Doesn't Adobe Adition / Cool Edit allow for this kinda thingywizzardry?
Yup, but it doesn't have the power of editing it with Photoshop, it's more basic ;).
It doesn't do that. They even tell you that you should be working on a track with a single instrument and preferably no FX. It is still pretty amazing but not that amazing. Is it ever even going to come out I wonder? It seems like the boards have been discussing that program for forever.
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Post by a_sn » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:15 pm

contakt321 wrote:The next version of Melodybe, called Melodyne DNA I believe can. It can even break apart notes in chords so you change stuff from major to minor.

Insane right?
I knew about notes in chords, it's actually not too hard to identify/separate, but any program that claims to be able to automatically separate from samples like what I did I'd like to see, because it's impossible to a certain extent i.e. I had to recreate bits of the synth that were literally gone.
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Post by paradigm_x » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:25 pm

A_SN wrote:Surely there must be samples out there that would have been used a lot if they hadn't been "ruined" by undesirable extra sounds.
http://www.subvertcentral.com/forum/sho ... php?t=7304

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Post by a_sn » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:29 pm

Paradigm X wrote:
A_SN wrote:Surely there must be samples out there that would have been used a lot if they hadn't been "ruined" by undesirable extra sounds.
http://www.subvertcentral.com/forum/sho ... php?t=7304

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Haha awesome! That's quite the sort of thing I had in mind. I need to grab a hold of whatever recording they're talking about.
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Post by a_sn » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:38 pm

nowaysj wrote:beep map in fl for 150 years now.
Not that I'm tired of people saying "pfft X did it before", but how does beep map come anywhere close to filtering instruments out of music?
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Post by paradigm_x » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:47 pm

did you write this/make it ? or just good at using it/photocopy ?

Im sure someone will sort you out a copy, you can be a god in the breakdigging world !
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Post by a_sn » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:54 pm

Paradigm X wrote:did you write this/make it ? or just good at using it/photocopy ?

Im sure someone will sort you out a copy, you can be a god in the breakdigging world !
Yep I'm the one guy behind it all. I'm myself only mildly interested in break digging, I'm more interested in learning to paint my own sound, although I'd surely love to be commissioned for break sampling related tasks ;-).
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Post by a_sn » Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:02 pm

nowaysj wrote:Not tryint to pft anyone's good time.

Render out the spectrogram, take it into photoshop, isolate the melodic line + harmonics, load it into the beep map. See what you get.
You try that and tell me how it compares ;-). Photosounder, in lossless mode, does lossless time-frequency domain filtering, that's why it's called lossless, cause.. it's lossless! :)

BeepMap just uses sine synthesis/noise synthesis (a non-optimal kind of) and therefore would lose greatly in quality.
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Post by caeraphym » Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:07 pm

RESPECT! A_SN for knocking out this incredible piece of software, have you any other things in the pipeline or already out too?
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Post by contakt321 » Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:10 pm

For real, this looks awesome. Please let me know when a UB Mac version drops!
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Post by a_sn » Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:22 pm

Caeraphym wrote:RESPECT! A_SN for knocking out this incredible piece of software, have you any other things in the pipeline or already out too?
Right now I'm sticking to only deving on Photosounder, the next big thing for it being higher resolution sound to image algorithms, I'm considering spin-off programs doing something specific just right, but not working on any such thing right now.
contakt321 wrote:For real, this looks awesome. Please let me know when a UB Mac version drops!
PM me your e-mail and I'll add you to the Mac mailing list
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Post by drokkr » Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:59 am

spent as good part of tonight talking with some mates about this...
conclusion - it's brilliant 8)
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Post by abZ » Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:12 am

It is defiantly brilliant. Big up for that. I am a bit disappointed to come to the conclusion it is slightly over my head :lol:
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Post by lowpass » Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:25 am

hi how did you get the image of the sound?

I wanna try this one out asap
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