Skynet and Stakka synths?!

[pmm]

I'm trying to replicate that grimy synth sound skynet and stakka used so well in most of their tunes. It's obviously detuned sawtooth's filtered but still find it hard to get any where near.



Anyone have any suggestions?

Im using massive by the way :

Heres a good example:

|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0i7uobo ... re=related

[futures_untold]

In before the 'don't bite other people's style brigade'! hehe

The first thing I noticed is that they seem to have some chorus on all their basslines.

I'd also bet they have notch filters doing things too

[pmm]

yeh, it's more trying to get an understanding rather than trying to sound like them. I find replicate synths a great way of learning.

Im drenching my sawtooth in chorus. Still is't happening though.

Seriously tough sound to replicate

[megaladon]

I keep hearing (seemingly) contradictory things about chorus on the real low bass, is it a hazard for mixing/pressing if it's not entirely mono, or is this where pwm comes in?

[futures_untold]

Nope, this is where frequency splitting comes in!

By splitting your bass into 'highs mids & lows', you can treat & process each frequency band differently.

Thus, one could ensure that everything below 300Hz is mono, but put stereo effects such as chorus on the mids and highs.

Pulse Width Modualtion is something completely different, and unrelated to the stereo field. PWM is the process of changing the size between the 'peaks & troughs' of an oscillator shape as it oscillates. Traditionally one would use a pulse wave for pulse width modulation.

Hope that makes sense?

@ PWM, I wasn't saying you wanted to copy anyone, I was merely getting in my advice before this thread turned into a 'bash the wannabe copycat fest'!!! (Cuz that does sometimes happen on DSF!)

[futures_untold]

yeh, it's more trying to get an understanding rather than trying to sound like them. I find replicate synths a great way of learning.

Im drenching my sawtooth in chorus. Still is't happening though.

Seriously tough sound to replicate

Can you provide a clip or Youtube link to the particular bass style you're trying to achieve? That would help us deconstruct the sound so you can remake it!

Ps, I think they start with a standard 'hoover' bass, then add chorus and a notch filter. The notch filter needs to be on the synth that is producing the bass, that way it can retrigger/sweep on every new note that is played.

[futures_untold]

Oi! You fackin' wankaz.

Fixed for pronounciation accuracy

Lots of English people don't pronounce 'er' on the end of words, replacing that simply with 'ah'. Thus, 'water' becomes 'waughtah'.

Add to this the classic glottal stop. Thus we drop 't' from 'water' too. Reading this won't do the beauty of this sound justice, but here goes.. 'Waugh'ah' or 'buh'ah' (butter)

UK English as spoken by the average man in the street is the most beautiful language know to exist!

[DZA]

^^^ Seriously, blood lot of wankers (uk accent).

you fucking racist bigot

[pmm]

yeh, it's more trying to get an understanding rather than trying to sound like them. I find replicate synths a great way of learning.

Im drenching my sawtooth in chorus. Still is't happening though.

Seriously tough sound to replicate

Can you provide a clip or Youtube link to the particular bass style you're trying to achieve? That would help us deconstruct the sound so you can remake it!

Ps, I think they start with a standard 'hoover' bass, then add chorus and a notch filter. The notch filter needs to be on the synth that is producing the bass, that way it can retrigger/sweep on every new note that is played.

There is a youtube link in my 1st post. The sound im on about comes in around 1.05 init

[futures_untold]

Sorry, must of missed that!

Anyway, try this:

One oscillator on saw ---> lowpass --->

Another oscilator set on sine an octave lower.

Distort both with tube or tape distortion/compression ---> lowpass again and add chorus!