ms20 grimey

bob crunkhouse · Post by **bob crunkhouse** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 10:51 pm

anyone got any tips for grimey basses on the ms20

toxin · Post by **toxin** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 10:56 pm

describe what u mean by grimey.........

prismatic7 · Post by **prismatic7** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:27 pm

the ms20's got some weird fizzy bits that happen when you start routing the total out (headphone out) through the ESP section and back in to the main patch panel. My technique is to grab a preset out of the factory defaults that sounds OK and then patch away until something really odd happens...

masstronaut · Post by **masstronaut** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:53 am

prismatic7 wrote:My technique is to grab a preset out of the factory defaults that sounds OK and then patch away until something really odd happens...

Factory defults? MS20?

Yeah, what's grimey bass in your definition? Square waves, detuned oscilators maybe. Perhaps a low sine osc + square wave an octave up and slightly detuned. Some PWM on that. Bring the filter down. A little LFO to pitch. Play around innit.

prismatic7 · Post by **prismatic7** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:05 am

masstronaut wrote:
prismatic7 wrote:My technique is to grab a preset out of the factory defaults that sounds OK and then patch away until something really odd happens...

Factory defults? MS20?

The VST version has a bunch of presets. What we call factory defaults, innit.

masstronaut · Post by **masstronaut** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 1:05 pm

prismatic7 wrote:The VST version has a bunch of presets. What we call factory defaults, innit.

Mr Crunkhouse said nothing about a virtual MS-20.

Personally I'm well into the idea of someone making grime / dubstep on quality old analogue gear so I really hope he's using a real one. Which is it Bob?

hamilton · Post by **hamilton** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:41 pm

Toxin wrote:describe what u mean by grimey.........

hehehehehehe
"uuuuuummmm, yoo kno' ummm grimey".......
heehe

bedward · Post by **bedward** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:31 am

route a (sample based) drum machine thru the pitch-to-cv converter.
it tries to find fundemental notes in all these non-pitched sounds and can be pretty sick.

overdriving the filters (by turning the oscs right up) is grimey in the sense of filth.
for a more eski sound tho, less overdrive on the filters. do distortion later in the chain.

of course, u gott to watch that hpf if yr trying to get subs.
monitoring needs to be good here.
if u don't need the extreme bottom, sweeping that hpf with a fair bit of q on it can be ugh.

u can also turn the q (res) up to self oscillation and sequence it with midi-cv (the filters follow volt-octave law) for a bad sine bass, still with the option of adding some dirt from the oscillators.

ms20 is a beauty of a synth (the real one anyway) but for grime i would use it in a more middley sort of way, personally.
i'd use something without a hpf for bass, unless it's basically a one note thing so u can tune the low resonance just so.
mind you, if yer monitering is good, u'll be able to sort it out with a bit of tweaking, the bass character of the high-pass-filter, that is.

i hope some of that made sense, it's a bit late.
hooray for ms20s. : geek-shame :

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