FL Studio ---> Sh*t ???

[DZA]

I prefer heroin

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=86406

and then there was light

Dun kno my dealer from day

[MidnightMassDubstep]

terekete! gechaw ass in here and lock this mofo!
or maybe I'll gtfo and get a life.

[obri3n]

haha!

You nearly had me there! but... ... If your referring to my post: "Filter/LFO - Pre or Post Fx?" Where I was merely asking what approach others have on this setup, and got the usual reply of " Dont use it at all, use something different, be creative and unique and superior and self richeous like me coz im the biggest producer in the world and everyone loves the really unique sound i have! " then Yes! you could say im a beginner in 'Dubstep' Production ( like alot of people on here are, and with the help of many are getting some great advice.

But ive studied music history, production, and performance for years in many colleges! And NOT ONCE!!! is Fruity Chuffin Loops mentioned as good production software.

All i see it as (until proven wrong) is a quick and easy access tool.

** Jesus i wish id never started.

I could end all this and say " Hey, whatever works for you! " But that wasnt my question, I wanted to know if FL was actually any good.

Continue...

[DZA]

You have been proven wrong

VegetableBreaks FTW

[bandshell]

FL is great, the drum sequencing is superb and its an all round solid piece of software. Besides, the DAW is a canvas, it's what you put into it not what's there already, and if it was a canvas from the past I'd say it was venetian sail canvas

[antipode]

Wank on buddy. My audio engineering teacher gave a big lecture at the start of course complaining about FL, saying it's "colourful" and for people who aren't serious about music. It was a load of shit (couldn't actually come up with any valid arguments), turns out he hasn't used it since version 5..
But swears by macs and logic, even though the macs we use with mboxes crashed more in the first 2 weeks than fl ever has for me.
(personally I found logic's workflow horrible and drawn out. It's like cubase and garageband's retard lovechild)

Seriously, name one thing FL can't do.. oh you can't? Because you've never used it? oh..

A DAW is a DAW, they are all the same. Line up audio files in a row, load vsts.

But ive studied music history, production, and performance for years in many colleges! And NOT ONCE!!! is Fruity Chuffin Loops mentioned as good production software.

8/10

EDIT: I also find it funny that the haters still call it "Fruity Loops" even though it's been called FL Studio for like 3 years

[Tangka]

The main difference between the D.A.W.s is what kind of detail they are focusing on, specialized functionality, and their unique aesthetics / ergonomics. Doing certain things in FL studio will be 10 times faster than in other programs and vice versa.

They are all very stable pieces of software created by good developers who know what they're doing, and they have all been tested to have virtually the same sound quality.

FL Studio may seem like it has some limitations, but this is simply because it is trying to do one certain thing, while others may be trying to do something else, or more than one thing on the same platform. It is nothing short of a fully functional professional piece of software in terms of sequencing and synthesis and all of the elements of producing beats. It is not very good for doing live recording or post production, for example.

To use your own remarks as an example, why the hell would Benga use FL in the first place if "he has Logic and it's better." Seriously, you could have answered your own questions without posting a ROFLPOLL.

Also, you use Reason, so you should probably be asking if it is a piece of shit because it's the only one that doesn't have V.S.T. support.

I am just a hobbyist and an artist and don't know too much on the technical side but this is all basic stuff...

[thesis]

Nothing wrong with FL!!!! If you know how to use it well, you can get amazing results. If you're not making good music with FL Studio, don't blame the software. Maybe it just doesn't suit your workflow or style of music, try the other DAW's and see what you prefer.

I use lots of one-hit samples to build my drums, sometimes 50-100 drum samples in a project. FL Studio is really great for this kind of production. On the other hand, I like Ableton Live better for its MIDI implementation and for recording external sources.

Many of my released/forthcoming tunes were made 100% in FL studio, for example: Dub Boy, Progresso, Escolas, Depth Charge (check my player to listen)

[lojik]

haha!

You nearly had me there! but... ... If your referring to my post: "Filter/LFO - Pre or Post Fx?" Where I was merely asking what approach others have on this setup, and got the usual reply of " Dont use it at all, use something different, be creative and unique and superior and self richeous like me coz im the biggest producer in the world and everyone loves the really unique sound i have! " then Yes! you could say im a beginner in 'Dubstep' Production ( like alot of people on here are, and with the help of many are getting some great advice.

But ive studied music history, production, and performance for years in many colleges! And NOT ONCE!!! is Fruity Chuffin Loops mentioned as good production software.

All i see it as (until proven wrong) is a quick and easy access tool.

** Jesus i wish id never started.

I could end all this and say " Hey, whatever works for you! " But that wasnt my question, I wanted to know if FL was actually any good.

Continue...

Have you actually ever listened to the beats that people saying they use it have made? People in this thread have repeatedly referred you to artists who use it and you've completey chosen to ignore them and carry on saying "FL Studio is a beginner program". If you ask if other people see it as a beginner software then ignore the responses it just makes you come across as arrogant and high & mighty.

At the end of the day it has the core features that all the bigger (and MUCH more expensive sequencers have I might add) it just arranges them in a slighty different way so the blame for making beginner sounding beats comes down to the producer NOT the sequencer.

Finally I really don't see the point in posting something like "I've studied music production for years and I've never heard FL Studio mentioned", who cares? I've also studied music production for years and I have heard FL Studio given a good response, it's completely down to who you talk to (e.g. those who HAVE used it and those who havn't and assume that becuase Fruity Loops wasn't great, FL Studio is also a bad option).

[legend4ry]

Right..Look at it this way.

What does a DAW need?

Midi support
Audio support
Some sort of sequencer..
Some sort synth
Basic effects (verb, filter, eq, etc)

FL has all this....

The reason it isn't used in colleges is because it doesn't have audio in unless you use Edison but thats just 1 in..
Its the perfect DAW for people who just want to use midi and samples..maybe record the odd bit but not to much..

Oh plus it has VST support...

Its not a shit daw - its not a great daw either like any daw.. its what you feel more comfortable on.

[Brisance]

The reason it isn't used in colleges is because it doesn't have audio in unless you use Edison but thats just 1 in..

You sure about that? Depending on your soundcard you can select from all the possible inputs to any mixer channel.

[legend4ry]

The reason it isn't used in colleges is because it doesn't have audio in unless you use Edison but thats just 1 in..

You sure about that? Depending on your soundcard you can select from all the possible inputs to any mixer channel.

Thats what I was told, when I asked why the college used cubase and not fruity.

[djake]

The reason it isn't used in colleges is because it doesn't have audio in unless you use Edison but thats just 1 in..

You sure about that? Depending on your soundcard you can select from all the possible inputs to any mixer channel.

Thats what I was told, when I asked why the college used cubase and not fruity.

thats because most colleges are too far up there own asses to realise what would be best for students......

plus budget is usually the problem.

[slothrop]

FL Studio may seem like it has some limitations, but this is simply because it is trying to do one certain thing, while others may be trying to do something else, or more than one thing on the same platform. It is nothing short of a fully functional professional piece of software in terms of sequencing and synthesis and all of the elements of producing beats. It is not very good for doing live recording or post production, for example.

Yeah, it's like 95% of classical concert halls use a steinway grand rather than a lappy running cubase, but that doesn't mean you need a steinway grand to write dubstep or whatever.

To be honest, the day that I can write beats to compete with amatuer n00bs like Skream is the day that I'll start worrying about whether my software is holding me back. And even then I won't spend time and effort worrying about what other people are using...

I don't use FL, btw, I use the intermittently brilliant and intermittently flaky EnergyXT. But I think that's at least partly because I know it well enough that anything else feels horribly clunky owing to the learning curve...

[Brisance]

The reason it isn't used in colleges is because it doesn't have audio in unless you use Edison but thats just 1 in..

You sure about that? Depending on your soundcard you can select from all the possible inputs to any mixer channel.

Thats what I was told, when I asked why the college used cubase and not fruity.

thats because most colleges are too far up there own asses to realise what would be best for students......

plus budget is usually the problem.

God damnit, why do you brits get colleges, that work with DAWs? I mean, damn.

[legend4ry]

The reason it isn't used in colleges is because it doesn't have audio in unless you use Edison but thats just 1 in..

You sure about that? Depending on your soundcard you can select from all the possible inputs to any mixer channel.

Thats what I was told, when I asked why the college used cubase and not fruity.

thats because most colleges are too far up there own asses to realise what would be best for students......

plus budget is usually the problem.

God damnit, why do you brits get colleges, that work with DAWs? I mean, damn.

Cause most of us are to thick to become doctors and lawyers.

[lojik]

You sure about that? Depending on your soundcard you can select from all the possible inputs to any mixer channel.

Thats what I was told, when I asked why the college used cubase and not fruity.

thats because most colleges are too far up there own asses to realise what would be best for students......

plus budget is usually the problem.

God damnit, why do you brits get colleges, that work with DAWs? I mean, damn.

Cause most of us are to thick to become doctors and lawyers.

Case in point, you mean "too thick"

[legend4ry]

Thats what I was told, when I asked why the college used cubase and not fruity.

thats because most colleges are too far up there own asses to realise what would be best for students......

plus budget is usually the problem.

God damnit, why do you brits get colleges, that work with DAWs? I mean, damn.

Cause most of us are to thick to become doctors and lawyers.

Case in point, you mean "too thick"

Haha exactly

[DZA]

thats because most colleges are too far up there own asses to realise what would be best for students......

plus budget is usually the problem.

God damnit, why do you brits get colleges, that work with DAWs? I mean, damn.

Cause most of us are to thick to become doctors and lawyers.

Case in point, you mean "too thick"

Haha exactly

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