I think this should be a genre. I made a few tunes under the name zOMG.slguabed wrote:LOLZ
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i think that what makes "wonky" a good candidate to just still be called hiphop is the tempo.i know this is a vague generalization and there are lots of tracks that would prove otherwise but the common strand of 80-100 bpm running through these tracks prove them to be hiphop to me. i believe that tempo influences a lot of the entire sound of any particular genre as each is defined by it. house is at 120-130 garage at 128-135 dubstep at 140 (once again all generalizations) these tempos all give their tracks a particular feel and all of the leftfield far-out beats that are coming out recently still stem from that original 80-100 tempo so i think it's still very legitimate to still call it hiphop.
hiphop purists that say this is not hiphop can fuck off. hiphop was the first genre to cannibalize every other genre and is STILL one of the most open-minded types of music which was created with incoroporating anything and everything in mind.
hiphop purists that say this is not hiphop can fuck off. hiphop was the first genre to cannibalize every other genre and is STILL one of the most open-minded types of music which was created with incoroporating anything and everything in mind.
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Robert Mugabe has actually been in my house. I'm deadly serious.
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23rd October - Galway, Ireland.
31st October - UFO @ Dojo, Bristol w/ Dema.
http://www.myspace.com/rekorder87
I heard he's looking for beats, apparently he's jumping on the wonky-lazer-crunk-step bandwagon.Pneumatic wrote:what was he doing in your house mate?Robert Mugabe has actually been in my house. I'm deadly serious.
or do you not know? ... is it just a fact and thats that. one of them ones.
careful though, I doubt he'll pay up.
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Ok, heres the deal.
I've been living at an address in South London for about 9 months now, and we've had a couple of people knock on the door asking if there was a women's counselling service here. The latest one was a couple of days ago, so I decided to do a little research.
Turns out the address indeed used to be a women's health organisation. But a bit more looking through google and I found a court circular from 1994 on The Independent's website

There's no plaque here now by the way, they must of taken it down after he went a bit evil and all that.
Ok, heres the deal.
I've been living at an address in South London for about 9 months now, and we've had a couple of people knock on the door asking if there was a women's counselling service here. The latest one was a couple of days ago, so I decided to do a little research.
Turns out the address indeed used to be a women's health organisation. But a bit more looking through google and I found a court circular from 1994 on The Independent's website
Madness18 May: The President of the Republic of Zimbabwe this morning at Buckingham Palace received the Baroness Chalker of Wallasey (Minister of State, Foreign and Commonwealth Office, and Minister for Overseas Development).
His Excellency afterwards received the Chief Executive of RTZ Corporation (Mr Robert Wilson).
The President of the Republic of Zimbabwe subsequently received the Right Hon Paddy Ashdown MP (Leader of the Liberal Democratic Party).
His Excellency drove to St James's Palace in a Carriage Procession, accompanied by a Captain's Escort of the Household Cavalry with Standard, and received High Commissioners of the Commonwealth Countries and Ambassadors accredited to the Court of St James's.
The President of the Republic of Zimbabwe visited No 10 Downing Street for talks with the Prime Minister.
Afterwards His Excellency was entertained to Luncheon by the Prime Minister on behalf of Her Majesty's Government.
The President of the Republic of Zimbabwe this afternoon visited (MY ADDRESS) and was received by Dr Pat Tettey (Co-ordinator of the Southwark Phoenix Women's Health Organisation) and the Mayor of Southwark (Councillor Cecile Lothian).
His Excellency unveiled a commemorative plaque and toured the house, and was subsequently entertained to tea by the Mayor of Southwark at the Town Hall.
There's no plaque here now by the way, they must of taken it down after he went a bit evil and all that.
19th October - Jahtari Presents Tapes EP Launch Party @ Gramaphone, London w/ Tapes, Clause Four & International Observer.
23rd October - Galway, Ireland.
31st October - UFO @ Dojo, Bristol w/ Dema.
http://www.myspace.com/rekorder87
23rd October - Galway, Ireland.
31st October - UFO @ Dojo, Bristol w/ Dema.
http://www.myspace.com/rekorder87
It's the same as when a Grime MC spits over what it deemed to be Dubstep tune. Does it then become a Grime tune? Lots of Grime and Dubstep instrumentals are the same tempo & have the same half time structure yet have elements that make them fall into their respective genres so tempo and “how your head bobs when you listen” surely does not a genre make.
“What Dubstep is” is still in debate especially where the sounds going now, most people including myself are just calling it “140 Stuff” but struggle to accurately describe how what we play is different to the generic wobblestep that dominates the scene. I jokingly call what I play Detroit Garage or Broken Techno, I’m taking the piss cos I hate subgenres however feel the frustration of trying to describe what I play to people.
So yeh, I can see how the addition of an MC to this music removes the doubt of what the music is to most people but does that make Hud Mo’s Oops & Rekordah’s 1-2 Step R&B? A lot of what’s going on with this stuff has elements of what defined Electronica hence its on labels like Warp.
I’m just pleased that another sound has come along that brings people together from different scenes like Dubstep did. Wonky is surely not gonna stick but maybe another name will come along so record shops can create sections and Future Music can create tutorials and sample packs. By then surely the innovative producers will have moved on and continue to exist on the fringes creating cutting edge sounds that defy definition!
Oh and Mugabe is a mass torturer & murderer and all round c**t so if he comes back give him a kicking!
“What Dubstep is” is still in debate especially where the sounds going now, most people including myself are just calling it “140 Stuff” but struggle to accurately describe how what we play is different to the generic wobblestep that dominates the scene. I jokingly call what I play Detroit Garage or Broken Techno, I’m taking the piss cos I hate subgenres however feel the frustration of trying to describe what I play to people.
So yeh, I can see how the addition of an MC to this music removes the doubt of what the music is to most people but does that make Hud Mo’s Oops & Rekordah’s 1-2 Step R&B? A lot of what’s going on with this stuff has elements of what defined Electronica hence its on labels like Warp.
I’m just pleased that another sound has come along that brings people together from different scenes like Dubstep did. Wonky is surely not gonna stick but maybe another name will come along so record shops can create sections and Future Music can create tutorials and sample packs. By then surely the innovative producers will have moved on and continue to exist on the fringes creating cutting edge sounds that defy definition!
Oh and Mugabe is a mass torturer & murderer and all round c**t so if he comes back give him a kicking!
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