Sound system let down?

[malik]

Been out tonight to a drum and bass/dubstep night, was in the dubstep room all night [in for th kill droped 2 times in 2 hours ].

Anyway i jest not there where about 3 speakers in the room that would be good as feedback speakers. Was even worse when the aritst on the decks [no name spilled] maxed the levels to prduce pure white noise with a hint of wobble for like an hour, the rest where better but still let down by the system.

You would expect promoters to look out for venues with systems good enough to be able to handle a tad of bass, or is that asking too much?

dunno if it just me going too nights like this, [tbh this is the first off such i have been too] but with this rise in popularity of dubstep i can only see such nights popping more and more and it will force me to stick to the more established nights in my area, which is both good and bad. Anyone else been to such a night or was this a one off?

Sorry for the rant..

[spire]

ive refused to play at a couple places cause of the sucky soundsystem, now ive got a promoter asking if i want to go in halves on our own.


but no, its not really too much to ask. youd be surprised how many people (in the audience) couldnt care less about the soundsystem though, its weird.

[cosmic revenge]

i'm severely disappointed when i come to a show and the soundsystem is shitty. ruins the whole vibe for me. i need heavy, heavy bassweight

[16bit]

Been out tonight to a drum and bass/dubstep night, was in the dubstep room all night [in for th kill droped 2 times in 2 hours ].

Anyway i jest not there where about 3 speakers in the room that would be good as feedback speakers. Was even worse when the aritst on the decks [no name spilled] maxed the levels to prduce pure white noise with a hint of wobble for like an hour, the rest where better but still let down by the system.

You would expect promoters to look out for venues with systems good enough to be able to handle a tad of bass, or is that asking too much?

dunno if it just me going too nights like this, [tbh this is the first off such i have been too] but with this rise in popularity of dubstep i can only see such nights popping more and more and it will force me to stick to the more established nights in my area, which is both good and bad. Anyone else been to such a night or was this a one off?

Sorry for the rant..

[dj fidelity]

I second the motion...

But sadly, Promoters generally don't know shit about sound systems...

[dj ld]

Whats the point of building nice warm sounding soundsystems for people to use fucking serato on?

[malik]

Been out tonight to a drum and bass/dubstep night, was in the dubstep room all night [in for th kill droped 2 times in 2 hours ].

Anyway i jest not there where about 3 speakers in the room that would be good as feedback speakers. Was even worse when the aritst on the decks [no name spilled] maxed the levels to prduce pure white noise with a hint of wobble for like an hour, the rest where better but still let down by the system.

You would expect promoters to look out for venues with systems good enough to be able to handle a tad of bass, or is that asking too much?

dunno if it just me going too nights like this, [tbh this is the first off such i have been too] but with this rise in popularity of dubstep i can only see such nights popping more and more and it will force me to stick to the more established nights in my area, which is both good and bad. Anyone else been to such a night or was this a one off?

Sorry for the rant..

Sorry mate nothing personal i thought your set was mint part from the sound, mixer was in the red maxed out all the through on a shit sound system, what can you expect?

[Pada]

Whats the point of building nice warm sounding soundsystems for people to use fucking serato on?

Loefah was playing on Iration Steppas using serato.. sounded good to me!

[ratdeal]

plastician might have a think or two to say about that.

[efa]

Whats the point of building nice warm sounding soundsystems for people to use fucking serato on?

Loefah was playing on Iration Steppas using serato.. sounded good to me!

Interesting, when was that?

Seriously djld, Plastician plays on Serato standard and he destroyed iration and it sounded fine.

[dj ld]

Might sound alright,but I dont like settling for alright.

[domhunt]

Hope to be hearing good things from you at Open Plan

[ratdeal]

mate.when you pissed up and listening on a fat system its nearly impossible to tell the difference.espeshly with all the sub bass making the room vibrate.now im not gunning vinyl.iv spent most of my income onit, but serato is just another tool allowing you to play out tunes when for eg. ur dub is scratched or uv got a new production u wanna play out to see its reaction b4 getting it cut.those are just two of the myriad of situations it can be helpful.a couple of dubstep djs iv seen play out solely on cdjs(not naming any but theyre big names) so altho the quality is a miniscule amount worse i doubt many people in the dance would complain.

[slothrop]

Might sound alright,but I dont like settling for alright.

Are you actually willing to play at more than 0.00001% of nights? Because if you're happy to play on pretty much any club system then you're settling for alright. I'd bet money that you'd sound better using serrato over Iration than playing vinyl at Plastic People, for instance, but I can't think of anyone who refuses to play at FWD because they aren't happy with the system.

Tbh if you want to push for perfection on everything that you can and can afford to cut the dubs to do it then more power to you. But for a new DJ who wants to push exciting new tunes by unsigned producers I think there are about 574 weaker links in the chain - from bad production through to shit soundsystems - so stifling that drive because they can't afford to cut dubs and are worried that 0.1% of people in the audience will notice the difference in sound quality and 0.1% of them will care is pretty stupid and bigoted.

[j-sh]

joker was using serato on mungo's hifi sound system at coronet theatre a few weeks ago and it was more than satisfactory

also i think a big part of the problem is most venues have to accomodate all sorts of acts, like rock/ hip hop/ drum and bass - and so cant realy afford to shell out for a really heavy system thats only really necessary for a small part of their clientel.

[ruckspin]

I was there. It sounded fully turd in that room, but what was interesting is that even when dubstep came on (me and planas) in the main room after grooverider (main room system was actually quite good), most people were still in the other room listening to distorto-wobble and loving it.

Are people are unable to tell the difference between good and bad soundsystem

To be fair I think there must have been a problem or miscommunication cos last time i heard the promoter was hiring in a load of extra system for that other room... dunno what happened there.

The problem is also compounded when the venue doesn't have engineers to sort out the system so it is left to people who know and actually care enough to sort it out if only to save their own ears...

[djake]

if ur chest aint rattling, it aint happening

[16bit]

Been out tonight to a drum and bass/dubstep night, was in the dubstep room all night [in for th kill droped 2 times in 2 hours ].

Anyway i jest not there where about 3 speakers in the room that would be good as feedback speakers. Was even worse when the aritst on the decks [no name spilled] maxed the levels to prduce pure white noise with a hint of wobble for like an hour, the rest where better but still let down by the system.

You would expect promoters to look out for venues with systems good enough to be able to handle a tad of bass, or is that asking too much?

dunno if it just me going too nights like this, [tbh this is the first off such i have been too] but with this rise in popularity of dubstep i can only see such nights popping more and more and it will force me to stick to the more established nights in my area, which is both good and bad. Anyone else been to such a night or was this a one off?

Sorry for the rant..

Sorry mate nothing personal i thought your set was mint part from the sound, mixer was in the red maxed out all the through on a shit sound system, what can you expect?

Tha face werent directed towards you bruv.. Was directed towards the soundsystem and no engineer in sight, tbh i dunno how yu engineer a couple booth monitors. swagalation. We was piiised after tha set. propa let down. we jus try enjoi it as much as poss, has a laugh an wif a system like tha it usually means going into the red a bit, rather tha than has it really quiet. les be honest, wif chainsaw yu ent gna notice th diff anyways. Its jus rarrar noise.
Got to Sheffield straight after though, played on a sick rig with Daddy Freddy pon mic duties and forgot all about it =D!

[immortal]

Whats the point of building nice warm sounding soundsystems for people to use fucking serato on?

Beacuse its 'not what you do its the way that you do it!'

Nah its more than true though,i run a 10k tri band beast rig down in the westcountry,gutting when someone with serato comes on,but a good engineer (Which all clubs SHOULD have) can make up for it through some careful tweaking
Good sound is important,turned down many gigs due too speakers/needle quality etc.....part of the reasonin for gettin my own i spose