dubstep has gotten better, if anything.

q23 · Post by **q23** » Mon May 18, 2009 12:49 pm

I think the mods need to sum up all of the "dubstep rules / dubstep is wack" threads into one huge super hyper omni global mega 48 page thread, like they did with the "how do I make wobbles" and such. That way all the kids who want to argue about it can have one link to click on, and the rest of us can ignore it and keep listening to / making music.

It's a win-win situation, no?

pdomino · Post by **pdomino** » Mon May 18, 2009 1:06 pm

Apathesis wrote:
pdomino wrote:Nowt to do with tekno, just releases.
Also tekno is the crap they play at free parties, techno is a huge and diverse genre that definitely influences lots of others.

it definately does yeah ...
my bad, was just the way i spelt it tbh, techno is techno no ? lol
my point was, some big releases this year. thats it.

apathesis · Post by **apathesis** » Mon May 18, 2009 1:39 pm

beatlejuice wrote:not really feeling ramadanman or martyn...

...i'll take the rufness of MRK1, oris jay, SLT mob over them anyday

of course if you throw toasty's "old" productions against martyn or ramadanman then i'd say your talkin some shit eh...

...all good tho cos i'm all about the shit talk

Haha fair play. I just like nice sounds

can't take too much ruff stuff.

Iamagirl

calculate · Post by **calculate** » Mon May 18, 2009 1:44 pm

bagelator wrote:
Surface_Tension wrote:
Corpsey wrote:''the quality of production (has) gotten better'' - what do you mean by this?
Dubstep was created by a couple of 14 year old kids on cracked fruity loops...
lies . everyone knows it was rolf harris on animal hospital

Classic! Yeah that wobbly bassline originated from a big piece or card!

calculate · Post by **calculate** » Mon May 18, 2009 1:45 pm

Q23 wrote:I think the mods need to sum up all of the "dubstep rules / dubstep is wack" threads into one huge super hyper omni global mega 48 page thread, like they did with the "how do I make wobbles" and such. That way all the kids who want to argue about it can have one link to click on, and the rest of us can ignore it and keep listening to / making music.

It's a win-win situation, no?

Couldn't agree more!!

did · Post by **did** » Mon May 18, 2009 1:56 pm

As someone said, the people today who're making generic wobblers may be the ones to start off the next movement. I bet there are bare big producers now that started off making shitty garage or jungle beats. It's how people learn. I don't know if this is relevant cus i didn't read the rest of the thread.

Also, people saying all releases are shit now, i'd say there are more good releases coming out now, just with a load of shit aswell. Back in the day there weren't that many releases cus it wasn't popular enough but i bet proportionally there was the same amount of shit about.

soundbwoy · Post by **soundbwoy** » Mon May 18, 2009 2:09 pm

DID wrote:As someone said, the people today who're making generic wobblers may be the ones to start off the next movement. I bet there are bare big producers now that started off making shitty garage or jungle beats. It's how people learn. I don't know if this is relevant cus i didn't read the rest of the thread.

YEAH BUT THE PEOPLE MAKING SHITTY GARAGE OR JUNGLE BEATS WEREN'T RELEASING THEM!!! And if these ghey sci-fi / scary / bait sample premature releases spark off a new movement, its a par. Why? Because all anyone with any critical side is gonna do is look at their back catalog of 1,000,000 bait tunes and be like "how can I put my faith in this movement". But there won't be a movement anyway cause the next movement would require some sort of progression/originality which is coming - like someone said - from the Techno side of things. That movements already underway tbh.

Serox wrote:better? are you mad. Totally flopped it. Check how many waste man releases are getting pushed out.

Bring back the sound from 2004/5.

I'm sayin

addicted · Post by **addicted** » Mon May 18, 2009 2:14 pm

this thread reminds me of grime forum a year ago

i think the issue with alot of the new stuff coming out is it has no soul and dubs being brought out by established and respected dubstep artists is them trying as hard as possible to be different from the ruskos and caspas and it isnt natural.

djfurness · Post by **djfurness** » Mon May 18, 2009 2:38 pm

I think there are a plethora of brilliant tunes out there right now from all angles, I love the agressive aggy mental Coki/Skream metal stuff, I love 2562 & Appleblim, I love Joker, Zomby & Rustie and their bleepd out crazyness, but anyone saying that 2004/05/06 wasnt the best era for tunes is mental, if it wasnt for that era then we wouldnt have all the new influx of producers we have now. I listened to Dubstep Warz for the millionth time the other day, and I could still feel the goosebumps I had back in those times, when everything popping up felt so fresh and exciting, I will never moan about the state of Dubstep because everything changes and evolves and I still get excited all the time now, with the amount of stuff out there now your always bound to be missing great stuff, so if I havent found a great tune for a while, I just look harder.

the acid never lies · Post by **the acid never lies** » Mon May 18, 2009 2:45 pm

Serox wrote:
beatlejuice wrote:
...i'll take the rufness of MRK1, oris jay, SLT mob over them anyday

Word.

Nah.

Find myself disagreeing with the outspoken majority here.

the acid never lies · Post by **the acid never lies** » Mon May 18, 2009 2:48 pm

djfurness wrote:I think there are a plethora of brilliant tunes out there right now from all angles, I love the agressive aggy mental Coki/Skream metal stuff, I love 2562 & Appleblim, I love Joker, Zomby & Rustie and their bleepd out crazyness, but anyone saying that 2004/05/06 wasnt the best era for tunes is mental, if it wasnt for that era then we wouldnt have all the new influx of producers we have now. I listened to Dubstep Warz for the millionth time the other day, and I could still feel the goosebumps I had back in those times, when everything popping up felt so fresh and exciting, I will never moan about the state of Dubstep because everything changes and evolves and I still get excited all the time now, with the amount of stuff out there now your always bound to be missing great stuff, so if I havent found a great tune for a while, I just look harder.

Hmm... This.

uncle bill · Post by **uncle bill** » Mon May 18, 2009 3:08 pm

djfurness wrote:I think there are a plethora of brilliant tunes out there right now from all angles, I love the agressive aggy mental Coki/Skream metal stuff, I love 2562 & Appleblim, I love Joker, Zomby & Rustie and their bleepd out crazyness, but anyone saying that 2004/05/06 wasnt the best era for tunes is mental, if it wasnt for that era then we wouldnt have all the new influx of producers we have now.

I think it's difficult to argue against that being the most important era for the dubstep scene but I don't believe there are less good tracks coming out today.

Hibbie · Post by **Hibbie** » Mon May 18, 2009 3:14 pm

Apathesis wrote:I think once the techno people started making dubstep the bar got RAISED production wise.

dubstepper · Post by **dubstepper** » Mon May 18, 2009 3:28 pm

Serox wrote:better? are you mad. Totally flopped it. Check how many waste man releases are getting pushed out.

Bring back the sound from 2004/5.

yeh man this, bring back the old days. Thee is alot of good stuff these days but 04/05 was sick. The First Dub Police release from L-wiz back in 2005 was and still is 1 of my fav records all 3 tunes are sick. Now if i put up any of the above 3tunes next to say Rusko/Bed Bugs or whateva its called or any of the other mid range wobble tunes its like hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Big wobbles like skream chestBoxing, Benga26 Basslines, Candyfloss Loefah Remix, Luke Envoy Honour Kill please walk this way, other mid range bolloxs please turn left go to the top of the building and jump off. Its is all about Quest, Silkie, Heny and all the Anti Social Lot now days in my opinion. Allways achieving high standards.

silkie · Post by **silkie** » Mon May 18, 2009 3:50 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owSNbOBoUP8
listen to the message in this song!!!

alcane · Post by **alcane** » Mon May 18, 2009 5:11 pm

I'd agree that its certainly getting more diverse!

I've been DJing/listening to Drum & Bass for the past 11 years, and wasn't totally hooked when I first heard dubstep, but now have gradually warmed to it, to the point I'm now playing it out (as a sideline to my D&B of course).

Theres some amazing tunes out there now, and hopefully will only get better!

abs · Post by **abs** » Mon May 18, 2009 5:20 pm

i think the tunes out today are a stark contrast on the scene that once evolved but didn't. 2003 -2003 - 2003 /02 had the best sound for the homeboys repping it for croydon, luckily pinch had a lot to say when he moved to kent and got influenced by african drumming when he followed his dad along to a drumming class with mugumbo the local drum guy that busks in town, basicly i disagree with what im saying but fuck you thanks

aems · Post by **aems** » Mon May 18, 2009 5:40 pm

as the scene expands you get more good stuff and more shit stuff. same with any music genre / movement / whatever you want to call it. just make tunes - if people dig them, all good

stop debating it and fire up ableton / fl studio / cubase

beatlejuice · Post by **beatlejuice** » Mon May 18, 2009 6:14 pm

if one more person says, good music is good music so shut up and go make sum, quit moaning bout the scene and be positive, just to sound like theyre some dubstep PLUR guy i'm going to vomit...

...this is the interweb and a discussion forum. without healthy debate and at the risk of being called a hater or troll with contrasting opinions it's all eatarse fanboy shit

fairieswearboots · Post by **fairieswearboots** » Mon May 18, 2009 6:24 pm

simple answer is - there's just MORE now

more than 02, more than 07

scene is already SO much bigger - and there are a LOT of mediocre tracks out there -

expect it

dubstep has gotten better, if anything.

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