can rick rubin save the music business?

kate_ · Post by **kate_** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:59 pm

No, he can't.

But he will have come closer than most producers have in a long time.

kate_ · Post by **kate_** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:59 pm

I think Parson could save the music industry if he would just put out some more stuff.

parson · Post by **parson** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:02 pm

jahtao · Post by **jahtao** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:02 pm

geiom wrote:btw the Bjork album is amazing

Yeah?! I branded it unlistenable after a handful of play thrus. Maybe i should give it another try. But yeah looking at the credits is joke, there's so many, and in so many countries with so many producers, engineers etc.

Homogenic is defo one of my fav albums.

Anyhoo, Rick Rubin, good article, but can anyone who carries on like that really sort anything out? All these assistants and buddahs and we need a new building, bring me a choco drink stuff seemed too much like bloated insane star stuff too me. Love his production tho.

relaks · Post by **relaks** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:19 pm

the new bjork album I found to be her worst to date.

Interesting
to each his own

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Wed May 20, 2009 2:15 am

just re read this again. such a good interview.

boomstix · Post by **boomstix** » Wed May 20, 2009 3:28 am

nothing can save the music business, its going the way of videos and tapes.

but the music is just fine

magma · Post by **magma** » Wed May 20, 2009 9:15 am

Rick Rubin forever gets a pass for relaunching Johnny Cash's career without turning him into utter shit.

The man's a fucking legend and he's got an AWESOME beard.

Has anyone ever seen the documentary on the making of the Black Album? Watching Rick Rubin and Jay-Z in the same room is pure brilliance.

spire · Post by **spire** » Wed May 20, 2009 9:16 am

great article, thanks for sharing it.

jazzamataz · Post by **jazzamataz** » Wed May 20, 2009 10:15 am

ployd wrote:
RickyRicardo wrote:What should probably be kept in mind is that Rubin produces and promotes *pop* music (which, probably to alot of this crowd, is a dirty word). That still doesn't make him any less prolific in what he does, though.

You gotta remember that Kid Rocks, Linkin Parks, and Slipknots of the world have enormous fanbases, despite what we may think of them as artists. And that's in no small part due to Rubin looking at that vast pool of talent out there and seeing what will work.
truth . Also ... lets not forget that Mars Volta Deloused In The Comatorium is on that list . Its only one of the most badass albums ever imho .

Was just about to say that... One of the best/weirdest/most amazing album's i've had the pleasure of listening to in my whole life. The soundscape and experimental side of the album is brilliant.

did · Post by **did** » Wed May 20, 2009 10:44 am

Jolly Wailer wrote:impressive resume -

1998: Chef Aid: The South Park Album - South Park

jonnyrebel · Post by **jonnyrebel** » Wed May 20, 2009 12:26 pm

all il say is Jonny cash.

alien pimp · Post by **alien pimp** » Thu May 21, 2009 2:46 pm

nice reading

but what i read there is rubin was actually defeated by industry's malpractice before and now he teamed up with the guy who once fucked him up, since the former head of columbia is now sharing his position with rubin.
so i think the guy is in just for a decent buck without swallowing too much

"The CD debuted at No. 4," Rubin told me at Hugo's, still sounding upset. "It was the highest debut of Neil's career, off to a great start. But Columbia — it was some kind of corporate thing — had put spyware on the CD. That kept people from copying it, but it also somehow recorded information about whoever bought the record. The spyware became public knowledge, and people freaked out. There were some lawsuits filed, and the CD was recalled by Columbia. Literally pulled from stores. We came out on a Tuesday, by the following week the CD was not available. Columbia released it again in a month, but we never recovered. Neil was furious, and I vowed never to make another album with Columbia."

boomstix · Post by **boomstix** » Fri May 22, 2009 9:18 am

^^that type of shit is why they have to go. that's not showing any respect to the musicians or the listeners.

770dk303 · Post by **770dk303** » Sat May 23, 2009 3:41 am

i really enjoyed this article. rick ruben has always been off on a different tip. i do not think he alone can save the music industry but at least he is taking the bull by the horns...i think rick rueben and the guy who wrote the article probably think he can do it single handedly but there will have to be alot more people in higher places with his mentality. my.02. thanx for posting this

alien pimp · Post by **alien pimp** » Sat May 23, 2009 2:09 pm

yeeeaaahh, go obama!
errrmmm... i mean rubin!

dubstepjustin · Post by **dubstepjustin** » Sun May 24, 2009 6:49 pm

Jolly Wailer wrote:impressive resume -

1985: Radio - LL Cool J
1986: Licensed to Ill - Beastie Boys
1986: Raising Hell - Run-DMC
1986: Reign in Blood - Slayer
1987: Electric - The Cult
1988: Danzig - Danzig
1988: Tougher Than Leather - Run-DMC
1988: South of Heaven - Slayer
1988: Masters of Reality - Masters of Reality
1989: Dice - Andrew Dice Clay
1989: Live Fast, Die Fast - Wolfsbane
1990: Same - Geto Boys
1990: Trouble - Trouble
1990: Danzig II: Lucifuge - Danzig
1990: Seasons in the Abyss - Slayer
1991: Nobody Said It Was Easy - The Four Horsemen
1991: Manic Frustration - Trouble
1991: Decade of Aggression - Slayer
1991: Blood Sugar Sex Magik - Red Hot Chili Peppers
1992: Danzig III: How the Gods Kill - Danzig
1992: King King - Red Devils
1993: Thrall: Demonsweatlive - Danzig
1993: Wandering Spirit - Mick Jagger
1993: 21st Century Jesus - Messiah
1994: Danzig 4 - Danzig
1994: American Recordings - Johnny Cash
1994: Divine Intervention - Slayer
1994: Wildflowers - Tom Petty
1995: One Hot Minute - Red Hot Chili Peppers
1995: Ballbreaker - AC/DC
1995: God Lives Underwater - God Lives Underwater
1995: Empty - God Lives Underwater
1996: Songs and Music from "She's the One" - Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
1996: Unchained - Johnny Cash
1996: Undisputed Attitude - Slayer
1996: Sutras - Donovan
1998: "Let Me Give the World to You" - The Smashing Pumpkins (an unreleased song)
1998: VH1 Storytellers - Johnny Cash & Willie Nelson
1998: Diabolus in Musica - Slayer
1998: System of a Down - System of a Down
1998: Peasants, Pigs & Astronauts - Kula Shaker ("Sound of Drums")
1998: Chef Aid: The South Park Album - South Park
1999: Northern Star - Melanie C ("Suddenly Monday" and "Ga Ga")
1999: Californication - Red Hot Chili Peppers
1999: Echo - Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers
1999: Loud Rocks - V/A ("Shame" by System of a Down and Wu-Tang Clan, "Wu-Tang Clan Ain't Nothing Ta Fuck Wit" Tom Morello, Chad Smith and Wu-Tang Clan)
1999: The Globe Sessions - Sheryl Crow ("Sweet Child O'Mine")
2000: American III: Solitary Man - Johnny Cash
2000: Paloalto - Paloalto
2000: Renegades - Rage Against the Machine
2001: Amethyst Rock Star - Saul Williams
2001: The War of Art - American Head Charge
2001: Breath of the Heart - Krishna Das
2001: The Final Studio Recordings - Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan
2001: Toxicity - System of a Down
2002: American IV: The Man Comes Around - Johnny Cash
2002: By the Way - Red Hot Chili Peppers
2002: Audioslave - Audioslave
2002: Steal This Album! - System of a Down
2003: Results May Vary - Limp Bizkit (with Terry Date and Jordan Schur)
2003: Unearthed - Johnny Cash
2003: Door of Faith - Krishna Das
2003: De-Loused in the Comatorium - The Mars Volta (with Omar Rodriguez-Lopez)
2003: The Black Album - Jay-Z ("99 Problems")
2003: Live at the Grand Olympic Auditorium - Rage Against the Machine
2003: Heroes and Villains - Paloalto
2004: Vol. 3 (The Subliminal Verses) - Slipknot
2004: Armed Love - The (International) Noise Conspiracy
2004: Crunk Juice - Lil' Jon and the East Side Boyz ("Stop Fuckin' Wit Me")
2005: Make Believe - Weezer
2005: Fijación Oral Vol. 1 - Shakira
2005: Oral Fixation Vol. 2 - Shakira
2005: Out of Exile - Audioslave
2005: Mezmerize - System of a Down
2005: Hypnotize - System of a Down
2005: 12 Songs - Neil Diamond
2006: Christ Illusion - Slayer
2006: Stadium Arcadium - Red Hot Chili Peppers
2006: Taking the Long Way - Dixie Chicks
2006: American V: A Hundred Highways - Johnny Cash
2006: FutureSex/LoveSounds - Justin Timberlake ("(Another Song) All Over Again")
2006: The Saints are Coming - U2 and Green Day (single)
2006: Window in the Skies - U2 (single)
2007: Fixing Cities - The (International) Noise Conspiracy
2007: American VI - Johnny Cash
2007: Heroes and Thieves - Vanessa Carlton (with Irv Gotti, 7 Aurelius and Stephan Jenkins)
2007: Dancing for the Death of an Imaginary Enemy - Ours
2007: "Better Than I've Ever Been" - Kanye West, Nas, KRS-One (single)
2007: Rock And Roll Jesus - Kid Rock
2007: Minutes to Midnight - Linkin Park
2007: 99 Ways To Rock 'N Peace - Fukface
2008: Metallica's ninth studio album - Metallica
2008: "Untitled" - Weezer
2008: 4th Studio Album - Slipknot

How about something that isn't mainstream.

diablo · Post by **diablo** » Sun May 24, 2009 7:23 pm

Jolly Wailer wrote:impressive resume -

1985: Radio - LL Cool J
1986: Licensed to Ill - Beastie Boys
1986: Raising Hell - Run-DMC
1986: Reign in Blood - Slayer
1987: Electric - The Cult
1988: Danzig - Danzig
1988: Tougher Than Leather - Run-DMC
1988: South of Heaven - Slayer
1988: Masters of Reality - Masters of Reality
1989: Dice - Andrew Dice Clay
1989: Live Fast, Die Fast - Wolfsbane
1990: Same - Geto Boys
1990: Trouble - Trouble
1990: Danzig II: Lucifuge - Danzig
1990: Seasons in the Abyss - Slayer
1991: Nobody Said It Was Easy - The Four Horsemen
1991: Manic Frustration - Trouble
1991: Decade of Aggression - Slayer
1991: Blood Sugar Sex Magik - Red Hot Chili Peppers
1992: Danzig III: How the Gods Kill - Danzig
1992: King King - Red Devils
1993: Thrall: Demonsweatlive - Danzig
1993: Wandering Spirit - Mick Jagger
1993: 21st Century Jesus - Messiah
1994: Danzig 4 - Danzig
1994: American Recordings - Johnny Cash
1994: Divine Intervention - Slayer
1994: Wildflowers - Tom Petty
1995: One Hot Minute - Red Hot Chili Peppers
1995: Ballbreaker - AC/DC
1995: God Lives Underwater - God Lives Underwater
1995: Empty - God Lives Underwater
1996: Songs and Music from "She's the One" - Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
1996: Unchained - Johnny Cash
1996: Undisputed Attitude - Slayer
1996: Sutras - Donovan
1998: "Let Me Give the World to You" - The Smashing Pumpkins (an unreleased song)
1998: VH1 Storytellers - Johnny Cash & Willie Nelson
1998: Diabolus in Musica - Slayer
1998: System of a Down - System of a Down
1998: Peasants, Pigs & Astronauts - Kula Shaker ("Sound of Drums")
1998: Chef Aid: The South Park Album - South Park
1999: Northern Star - Melanie C ("Suddenly Monday" and "Ga Ga")
1999: Californication - Red Hot Chili Peppers
1999: Echo - Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers
1999: Loud Rocks - V/A ("Shame" by System of a Down and Wu-Tang Clan, "Wu-Tang Clan Ain't Nothing Ta Fuck Wit" Tom Morello, Chad Smith and Wu-Tang Clan)
1999: The Globe Sessions - Sheryl Crow ("Sweet Child O'Mine")
2000: American III: Solitary Man - Johnny Cash
2000: Paloalto - Paloalto
2000: Renegades - Rage Against the Machine
2001: Amethyst Rock Star - Saul Williams
2001: The War of Art - American Head Charge
2001: Breath of the Heart - Krishna Das
2001: The Final Studio Recordings - Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan
2001: Toxicity - System of a Down
2002: American IV: The Man Comes Around - Johnny Cash
2002: By the Way - Red Hot Chili Peppers
2002: Audioslave - Audioslave
2002: Steal This Album! - System of a Down
2003: Results May Vary - Limp Bizkit (with Terry Date and Jordan Schur)
2003: Unearthed - Johnny Cash
2003: Door of Faith - Krishna Das
2003: De-Loused in the Comatorium - The Mars Volta (with Omar Rodriguez-Lopez)
2003: The Black Album - Jay-Z ("99 Problems")
2003: Live at the Grand Olympic Auditorium - Rage Against the Machine
2003: Heroes and Villains - Paloalto
2004: Vol. 3 (The Subliminal Verses) - Slipknot
2004: Armed Love - The (International) Noise Conspiracy
2004: Crunk Juice - Lil' Jon and the East Side Boyz ("Stop Fuckin' Wit Me")
2005: Make Believe - Weezer
2005: Fijación Oral Vol. 1 - Shakira
2005: Oral Fixation Vol. 2 - Shakira
2005: Out of Exile - Audioslave
2005: Mezmerize - System of a Down
2005: Hypnotize - System of a Down
2005: 12 Songs - Neil Diamond
2006: Christ Illusion - Slayer
2006: Stadium Arcadium - Red Hot Chili Peppers
2006: Taking the Long Way - Dixie Chicks
2006: American V: A Hundred Highways - Johnny Cash
2006: FutureSex/LoveSounds - Justin Timberlake ("(Another Song) All Over Again")
2006: The Saints are Coming - U2 and Green Day (single)
2006: Window in the Skies - U2 (single)
2007: Fixing Cities - The (International) Noise Conspiracy
2007: American VI - Johnny Cash
2007: Heroes and Thieves - Vanessa Carlton (with Irv Gotti, 7 Aurelius and Stephan Jenkins)
2007: Dancing for the Death of an Imaginary Enemy - Ours
2007: "Better Than I've Ever Been" - Kanye West, Nas, KRS-One (single)
2007: Rock And Roll Jesus - Kid Rock
2007: Minutes to Midnight - Linkin Park
2007: 99 Ways To Rock 'N Peace - Fukface
2008: Metallica's ninth studio album - Metallica
2008: "Untitled" - Weezer
2008: 4th Studio Album - Slipknot

dubstepjustin · Post by **dubstepjustin** » Sun May 24, 2009 11:47 pm

I mean out of the entire list. Majority of mainstream music is the same old repetitive unfresh ideas. This guy is releasing that kind of material. Really if the attempt of revitalizing the industry includes releasing this type of music, its not going to go anywhere no matter how much you have under your belt. its not how many artists you have in your portfolio.

The mainstream isnt really used to new ideas. Thats the next problem.

kultron · Post by **kultron** » Mon May 25, 2009 4:16 pm

Eubin produced the last Weezer album? That one was a surefire stinker, but we all know it's not his fault, Weezer has been retarded for some years now.

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