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Post by egoless » Wed May 20, 2009 7:51 pm

kirkio wrote:Now that may not be what some of the beardstrokers and backpackers like, but you have to still respect someone who can make tunes that have that effect on a dancefloor.
Exactly my opinion :!:

It's funny how I defend them, but personally I'm not a fan of their productions... Hmmm... maybe that means I have some kind of... respect ? ;)
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Post by kapital » Wed May 20, 2009 8:05 pm

I've heard very little C&S, what I did hear didn't inspire me...but I must say....


You folks are lucky to have electronic music of any kind blow up on this sort of scale. "Hip-hop" may qualify as electronic music...but at the same time...fuck that lol. EDM

I don't know the history....did they seriously rape the fuck out of D&B?

What bad can this do to the scene over there?

I'm curious.
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Post by jason burns » Wed May 20, 2009 8:17 pm

Kapital wrote:
What bad can this do to the scene over there?

I'm curious.
none whatsoever, i guarantee that nobody can give you a credible example of how this will damage "the scene" it's just they aren't avant garde enough.

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Post by emil » Wed May 20, 2009 8:17 pm

gunjack wrote:
spiderman wrote: just know that the doors will shut on the other side so if you dont make it there aint no coming back.

WTF are you talking about???? :roll: let's say for the sake of argument that they "didn't make it" what is to stop them from coming back and doing indie releases??? blowback??? pffft. get a grip man, they could start a new project under a new name, put it out on an indie "dubstep" label and you would be creaming your jeans over it here on dsf before you even knew it was them.
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Post by babylonjunkies » Wed May 20, 2009 8:20 pm

you cant really hate on them, they can basically make liquid, jump up, hip hop and dubstep. 'take you there' is one of the best tunes to bone to, saxon and running are some sick tunes and they usually kill a dancefloor.

people need to take their righteous hoodies of.

the only problem is that they were gettin enough publicity on ram, and im guessing a recording contract with ram is probably more profitable than mercury if you're *only* selling 50k. i guess they wanna go platinum.
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Post by clarkycatdealer » Wed May 20, 2009 8:44 pm

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I think all of you "haters" really still depend on your mummy's & puppy's pocket money. When you start depending on your own, when you have bills to pay, food to buy, you'll see what the world is. It's fucking though! Especially if you don't want to die in some small office...

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C&S are one hell of dnb & dubstep producers, and I wish them all the luck and hope that they'll still do some good music.
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Post by rectaldubz » Wed May 20, 2009 8:54 pm

im kind of in the middle of everyones comments, firstly i like their music and am glad for their success but at the same time i could definitely see them becoming the new pendulum. :| :|

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Post by dash exp » Wed May 20, 2009 9:25 pm

SWEET! stack that paper!!

p.s. this is beyond d&b or dubstep DUH!
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Post by desire » Wed May 20, 2009 9:32 pm

Abs wrote:they make shit dnb, and the dubstep is wack too.

pendulum part two you say? they've sounded like pendulum for ages anyway.

fair play though, they're raking in the cash now, good luck to them in the future i say.
who are you too say there dubstep and dnb is shit? no offence but you aren't in a position to make that statement. if thats your opinion fine but otherwise keep it hush.

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Post by cosmic_surgeon » Wed May 20, 2009 9:32 pm

I never really liked C&S. If they did put out something I liked I'd listen to it, I don't care what label it's on.

I wish I could say "if the quality doesn't suffer under the weight of all that cash" but I can't 'cause I never cared in the first place. Must be pretty exciting for them though.
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Post by spiderman » Wed May 20, 2009 9:37 pm

gunjack wrote: dude you are on crack, people reinvent themselves all the time, just because you have heard chase and status records doesn't mean you are some all knowing authority! i mean how can you make some sort of sweeping generalization like "once you do a major label record you can never come back and do indie vinyl" are you slow or just ignoring logic? or both???

and wtf do you mean by "new talent"?


so the only valid new tunes are from "new talent"?


put up as many star trek pics as you want bub, you obviously can't see the forest for the trees.


music in general is SO much bigger than "dubstep" it amazes me how ppl like you lose perspective so easily...


maybe once in a while you should pop your head out of that fantasy land bubble you live in... and participate here on planet earth where almost anything is possible
LOL at the anger, u really that bothered? no need to take it to heart.


na u tottaly misunderstood. not a new talent, as in they still have the same talent that they always had (obviously people can reinvent themselves but some skills are quite inate).


im just basing my opinion on what im seeing from them, there making music which aint as creative (imo obviously :roll: ) and there getting more of there new music into the mainstream, (which is good for them in all fairness). i cant see them doing a u-turn; obviously they can decide to make stuff aimed at the underground at any point, if they wanna cater to 2 markets.

but from the looks of some reactions (to there recent stuff) they will lose some credibility and with the label they will be pushed to cater for the mainstream so it may make it difficult to get back to how they was in this scene. obviously they wont need to do that or care about that if they get success in the direction there going, but if they dont thats all i was saying.

if they make good music for everyone then there is no problem, but thats not so probable right now imo.
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Post by kapital » Wed May 20, 2009 9:45 pm

jason burns wrote:
Kapital wrote:
What bad can this do to the scene over there?

I'm curious.
none whatsoever, i guarantee that nobody can give you a credible example of how this will damage "the scene" it's just they aren't avant garde enough.
see being avant-garde for the pure sake of being avant-garde can be a problem in itself. if they do what they do to their OWN standard consistently...then that's all that should matter imo. If Mr. Johnson dictates what sort of music they make then it's a problem. Or am I just stating the obvious?
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Post by Pistonsbeneath » Wed May 20, 2009 9:57 pm

they're a million times better than pendulum

this isn't necessarily a bad thing although majors want singles and songs rather than pieces of music
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Post by spiderman » Wed May 20, 2009 10:04 pm

Piston wrote:majors want singles and songs rather than pieces of music
this is what i mean, the pressure of the majors kind of restrict artists so they wont be making stuff for the same crowd they started off, so that in itself distances them.
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Post by Pistonsbeneath » Wed May 20, 2009 10:06 pm

spiderman wrote:
Piston wrote:majors want singles and songs rather than pieces of music
this is what i mean, the pressure of the majors kind of restrict artists so they wont be making stuff for the same crowd they started off, so that in itself distances them.
yep...it needs to be obvious enough to market to people that don't know or particularly like d&b ala pendulum..

the difference between hold your colour & form & function tell you how far it ends up being from drum & bass..
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Post by carlyx » Wed May 20, 2009 10:48 pm

par..

sorry but every dubstep tune they've made (that i've heard) I liked. Ok.. maybe not Eastern Jam VIP, but that's like the only one.

Makes me laugh though.. there's so many people on here that dislike them.
Yet I can't think of one night i've been to and seem someone shake there head in disapproval, or leave the floor/room when one of their tunes come on. Everyone seems to go mental for them.. even now. Do you people just not get out or something?

probably the 1,000,000th person to say this.. but if you don't rate, don't hate.
err there like pendulum part deux, Stop picking your bum hole and show some bloodclart respect.
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Post by j-sh » Wed May 20, 2009 11:03 pm

The underground will always exist. These debates have happened in every new musical 'genre' since blues. Types of genre come about by being different to what is currently on the market, the reason they don't immediately become popular is becuase MOST people don't really like music to be challenging, or dependant on what sort of system you have, or experimental in anyway they just want to be satisfied - and that's fine for some.

When types of music, for instance dubstep which we can loosely define as around 140bpm, heavy bass music, hit the mainstream, elements of that 'genre' change ie. less sub, more mid range, simpler beats, more focus of lyrics and vocals etc...

Alot of people then start to worry that their 'dubstep' (or dnb or rave or hip hop) is gunna change into something else, but completely forget that the sound and artists and vibe is still there. Mala, Coki, Benga whoever theyre all still producing - just this word 'dubstep' now defines something different from what it used to.

The way to avoid this, is just to realise that there is the underground and the mainstream. Some sounds transfer easily from one to ther other, for instance some elements of hip hop, other sounds do not. If you stop trying to define the sounds you hear with word (genres) then you wont be dissapointed when the mainstream pick up those words and use them for the homogenised mainstream sounds that you hear on the radio or in a club.

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Post by seckle » Wed May 20, 2009 11:06 pm

spiderman wrote:
Piston wrote:majors want singles and songs rather than pieces of music
this is what i mean, the pressure of the majors kind of restrict artists so they wont be making stuff for the same crowd they started off, so that in itself distances them.
they've been at it a long time, so as people have said...fair play and the best of luck to them.

my only worry would be the way many of these major labels view electronica these days (with the exception of maybe XL recordings, warp and one or two others, who've done it right). they view it as mostly disposable music. music that won't necessarily make a gigantic truck of money initially, but over the course of 10 years, will make them their money back for their catalog.
traditionally, they give a boatload of money to brand new electronica/dance signings (especially for the the first few singles, or first album) and then slowly put them out down the back alley.
its called a "shotgun" deal. pump the hell out of the 1st album...make sure there's radio singles, touring, even a video, ride it out as long as it lasts, and then choke(reduce all promotion).....2nd album.....choke again....3rd album....done...finished. rinse and repeat for the next decade.
if you think i'm talking S then look at the examples in the last 20years (and these are just electronica/dance). look at prodigy, fatboy slim, chemicalbros, basement jaxx, craig david, or roni size. look at how the major labels treated jungle and 2step!

its a gamble, and let's hope they have a plan B and C.

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