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Post by benjamminzis » Sat May 23, 2009 10:31 pm

HiggzBozon wrote:Since two weeks back, i hear more and more rumors about how the U.N. is discussing a new law for internet use at the moment.
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the U.N. is as irrelevant as the record companies... just ask anyone in iraq... haha
Life is not about what you take from it, but what you bring to it...

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Post by seckle » Sun May 24, 2009 11:57 pm

HiggzBozon wrote: Since two weeks back, i hear more and more rumors about how the U.N. is discussing a new law for internet use at the moment. If this law comes true,
internet will be sold in packages to everyone.
the UN has been involved with piracy for years, but as with anything globally related, it takes decades for the planet to agree on something this huge. i've been following it in a limited way. here are some links if it interests you. until the world can come to agreement on a universal international copyright law, going further than what the Berne Convention achieved, then piracy will never stop.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Conv ... stic_Works

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Post by seckle » Mon May 25, 2009 8:39 pm

this lays out some of the issues very well, imo.
http://wiki.lessig.org/index.php/Agains ... _copyright

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Post by jedison » Tue May 26, 2009 12:51 am

I think the point that a lot of legitimate small and big time people, who spend a lot of time on making something to be enjoyed, getting fucked out of money by somebody too cheap to drop $150 on a VSTi also needs to be emphasized. If all the people who work their ass off to make programs suddenly decided to stop making them and move on due to piracy, how fucked would we all be? I don't have many posts though, so I probably don't know how things work.
Yoyoyo.

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Post by miss_molinari » Sat May 30, 2009 12:20 pm

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It is common to argue that intellectual property in the form of copyright and patent is necessary for the innovation and creation of ideas and inventions such as machines, drugs, computer software, books, music, literature and movies. In fact intellectual property is a government grant of a costly and dangerous private monopoly over ideas. We show through theory and example that intellectual monopoly is not necessary for innovation and as a practical matter is damaging to growth, prosperity and liberty.
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ps: http://levine.sscnet.ucla.edu/general/i ... tfinal.htm
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Post by max ohm » Sun May 31, 2009 8:02 pm

Caeraphym wrote:I read an article a few weeks ago saying that bands are making more money now through ticket sales and merchandise sold at gigs than ever before, so much so that they've even stopped selling CDs at gigs because they carry less profit than the ubiquitous T-Shirt. This I can only see as a good thing because a) they are having to do what musicians do and make music, live preferably (DJs/Producers included), to make a living, b) they're making money which isn't being raped by greedy, bloated, fish lipped, record company CEOs off the back of record sales, and c) there is far more chance of seeing artists you would like to see actually performing live infront of you for a nominal fee(Madonna/U2 et al not included).

As I understand it if ticket and t-shirt sales are to be the keepsake of modern music, and if record comanies failed to keep up with the internet for over 10 years, or the demands for lower priced CDs for even longer than that, maybe they wouldn't be having to claw their copyrights through foreign courts on dubious charges resulting in token prison sentences. Record companies made their money, squandered it, wallowed in piles of cocaine and yes men, and now realise the party has moved on. It stinks.

Huhh....you might not be familiar with the new "360 degree" record deals that companies are handing out now, requiring artists to pay in portions of their touring and merchandise revenue. Personally i cant wait to see
majors go belly up, and the industry go back to small scale indie labels
as the norm and more localized promotion of artists.

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Post by steakbox » Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:57 am

Brisance wrote:I used to download a lot of movies, if I couldn't I wouldn't go to the cinema either(ubless it was a really good movie, which I would go see even if I could download it)
i like this point. if it weren't for piracy, i wouldn't be buying all these things i pirate. i just wouldn't have anything.
Jedison wrote:I don't have many posts though, so I probably don't know how things work.
what does post count have to do with it?

miss_molinari: cheers for the link

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