The 'help me make this sound!' thread

futures_untold · Post by **futures_untold** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:33 am

Legendary wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixL_jmGRDXY

how the FUCK do you make that arp noise? its the best lead sound ever.

I agree with you, a real spine tingler

I haven't sat down to deconstruct it yet, but in the mean time, maybe take a gander at the contents of this thread ---> http://www.rolldabeats.com/forum/index. ... 38958&st=0

step correct · Post by **step correct** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:01 pm

So, anyone give me a rundown of how to make those mega-teethy Datsik-esque basslines?

cheaper · Post by **cheaper** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:22 pm

mmmmh 2 slightly detuned saws with unison, a shitload of drive and heavy notch filter automation. EZ

glottis5 · Post by **glottis5** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:07 pm

futures_untold wrote:
glottis5 wrote:How do you get that Eurobeat lead synth sound? Should be simple, but every time I try it sounds really thin and flat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kYXaan7jh4#t=0m25s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9ALaS8lHGM#t=0m16s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDJDUe7wrgU#t=0m38s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb_NxWH2COo#t=0m21s

Don't make fun
Euro leads utilise 'superwaves', which are essentially loads of saw waves slightly detuned from one another.

You'll need a synth with at least six oscillators, or 3 synths with two oscillators each stacked together.

Set the oscillator shape to sawtooth on all the oscillators. Detune the oscillators by the following amount of cents. (Each octave is divided into 12 semitones, each semi tone is divided into 100 cents).

Osc 1 - nothing
Osc 2 - 2 cents
Osc 3 - 4 cents
Osc 4 - 8 cents
Osc 5 - 16 cents
Osc 6 - 32 cents

A great trick for this kind of sound is to add a tempo synched delay unit as an insert, with the delay time set to 1. set the dry/wet very low, so the echo is only just audible.

you may also wish to add light amounts of chorus or reverb, possibly as send effects.

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If the above method fails you, try using pulse width modulation on sawtooth waves (although not all synths support this). this will give you the fatter wider sound your after.

Thany you! Finally, eurostep will be a reality!

hugh · Post by **hugh** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:48 pm

I would be quite interested in hearing your thoughts on the main synth used in Royksopps Eple
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkvXcvb7rkg
U kno the one. I've had thoughts, it seems like a lot of resampling with filter sweeps on the delays, but its more complex than that.

eprom · Post by **eprom** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:01 pm

If you can figure this one out, props.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRw7_1C9U2g

the first bass synth at 1:40

sunnyb · Post by **sunnyb** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:01 am

Hey futures untold, amazing thread !! this should be a big help to dubstep community far to many people using !Brutal electro .. I recreated a few basslines like coki-spongebob, rusko-hammertime

But always wanted to know how Bar 9 makes his basslines in

Bar 9-midnight the bassline after the drop

And also sukh knight_diesel not petrol

I would post youtube links but I'm posting of. My blackberry

if needed I can attach links to the songs when I'm back on the computer

Thanks !

ascii · Post by **ascii** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:57 am

futures_untold wrote:
Legendary wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixL_jmGRDXY

how the FUCK do you make that arp noise? its the best lead sound ever.

I agree with you, a real spine tingler

I haven't sat down to deconstruct it yet, but in the mean time, maybe take a gander at the contents of this thread ---> http://www.rolldabeats.com/forum/index. ... 38958&st=0

...It's a bell sample taken off the theme to a documentary about out of body experiences shown on TV in the '93 by Andy C and his mate Ant Miles who made up Origin Unknown. It was put on a sampler and ran through an Arpeggiator. The vocal samples in the song were also from the same television program and the majority of the samples (including the break) were taken off a Computer Music Sample CD that was out at the time.

I did a dubstep remix off it once with a mate which never got finished. I've still got the samples if you want to do a remix or something Legendary since you like the track so much?

riley_17 · Post by **riley_17** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:08 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StuqhV40qO0

Its the bass sound that kicks in at 55 seconds.

Any ideas?

Im using both reason and massive.

Thanks for any help, sorry if its dead easy and im just stupid!

gantzgraf · Post by **gantzgraf** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:09 pm

im curious about bar 9 too

zion cluster · Post by **zion cluster** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:45 pm

Hugh wrote:I would be quite interested in hearing your thoughts on the main synth used in Royksopps Eple
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkvXcvb7rkg
U kno the one. I've had thoughts, it seems like a lot of resampling with filter sweeps on the delays, but its more complex than that.

hmmm, not sure I agree 100% with ur police work there

I think it sounds like several lines of the same sound, layered, with the glide time being changed, or maybe just simple old pitchbend. You mean the lead synth yeah? not the gated synth?

shanekenton · Post by **shanekenton** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:23 am

i need help making this sound. it goes wohwohwohwohwohwoooohwoooohwoohwohwohwohwoh. halp?

yeager · Post by **yeager** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 5:48 am

o.k this at .18-well the whole track actually he he...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofS1S_JDLLc

futures_untold · Post by **futures_untold** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:52 am

ShaneKenton wrote:i need help making this sound. it goes wohwohwohwohwohwoooohwoooohwoohwohwohwohwoh. halp?

Just grab a microphone and record yourself.... It appears you have that one locked already

futures_untold · Post by **futures_untold** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:23 pm

Baro wrote:The sound I am wondering about is the the ringing faux(?) bass that comes in and out around the sub-bass.

http://files.filefront.com/basssamplemp ... einfo.html

sunnyb wrote: Bar 9-midnight the bassline after the drop

riley_17 wrote: Its the bass sound that kicks in at 55 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StuqhV40qO0

yeager wrote:Kicks in at 0.18s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofS1S_JDLLc

They all sound suspiciously like the 'Brutal Electro' patch from NI Massive......

The following links will be useful for learning about the 'Brutal Electro' sound...

http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t ... highlight=

http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=45366&start=0

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If you still insist on inflicting pain, read on.

1> Take a complex waveform, (one that isn't sine/triange/saw/pulse/square)
2> Create a waveshaper on your signal path as an insert effect and get shabby.
3> Pass the the audio through a distortion unit, also set as an insert effect. Experiment to taste.
4> Clean the blood from your ears/stab yourself/your nan/small puppies........

Another variation on this theme has been beautifully summarised by Deadly Habit.

Deadly Habit wrote: Try reshaping existing waveforms like sawtooths/squares so they have a more digital or fm-esque sound. (Use a waveshaper, ring modulator or bit crusher to do this).

Layer your oscillators, either several semitones or several octaves apart to thicken things up. Fine tune the distance between the top and bottom notes played by your oscillators. This will produce a beating (wobble) effect.

Possibly use subtle amounts of Frequency Modulation (FM) between your oscillators.

Phasers, chorusses and flangers can be used to add some movement to your patch.

As per usual, modulate a low pass & notch filter over the entire sound via lfo or hand drawn automation etc

Edited for clarity.

/Brutal Electro

norman swashbuckle · Post by **norman swashbuckle** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:29 pm

joker synths most in general but the bassy synth that comes in at 21 seconds on re-up thats the sickest lil riff about atm and the sqweely one on gully brook lane both FILTH

DZA · Post by **DZA** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:33 pm

Legendary wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixL_jmGRDXY

how the FUCK do you make that arp noise? its the best lead sound ever.

Big tune

futures_untold · Post by **futures_untold** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:05 pm

For those of you who haven't had their request looked at yet, please have patience...

In due course, I will discuss as many as I can figure out!

benjimans · Post by **benjimans** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 2:35 pm

Excision's 'Growl' - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF-EeSaONwQ
particularly the one at 1:01
then at 1:30 - can that even be made using a synth - or is it a sample of a lion/fuck off dinosaur ???

hurlingdervish · Post by **hurlingdervish** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 2:49 pm

benjimans wrote:Excision's 'Growl' - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF-EeSaONwQ
particularly the one at 1:01
then at 1:30 - can that even be made using a synth - or is it a sample of a lion/fuck off dinosaur ???

that sure does sound like a jurassic park sample

the question you should be asking is

how did the jurassic park guy make that sound? tuned down lion roars?

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