Operating Systems (UBUNTU)

2manynoobs · Post by **2manynoobs** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:41 am

haven't seen much topics about this, thought i'll post it, that way I did something usefull today, while studying math..

So i've only had experience with Windows 98, 2000 and XP. The last years i've been running XP but i have to reinstall that every 1/2 months, because all the shit i install makes xp lazy and slow like a dog.

So yesterday i installed Ubuntu, don't know if someones famiiar with it but anyways it seems to go A LOT smoother and FASTER then XP and i'm quite happy with it BUT!
(and this the moment where you've all been waiting for) i can't install a single daw. I'm linux nooby. But i've read that it's possible to run cubase, fl, ableton and all that same crap on it so i guess when i've figured out how to install shit i'm gonna stick to ubuntu. Massive OS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxfSwzhSn1c

This vid is a minor showoff of how KICK-ASS stable ubuntu 64bit is. You can multitask till you die but ubuntu will remain STABLE! (jeej!)
Just check that vid and pop out your eyes.

IMO: ALL TO UBUNTU!!!! http://www.ubuntu.com/

setspeed · Post by **setspeed** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:26 am

2ManyNoobs wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxfSwzhSn1c

This vid is a minor showoff of how KICK-ASS stable ubuntu 64bit is. You can multitask till you die but ubuntu will remain STABLE! (jeej!)
Just check that vid and pop out your eyes.

er.... it's got a cube....

i don't see what was impressive about the multitasking?

cybahq · Post by **cybahq** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:30 am

i think you can run some win apps if you install a win emulator or vm ware

2manynoobs · Post by **2manynoobs** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:35 am

setspeed wrote:
2ManyNoobs wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxfSwzhSn1c

This vid is a minor showoff of how KICK-ASS stable ubuntu 64bit is. You can multitask till you die but ubuntu will remain STABLE! (jeej!)
Just check that vid and pop out your eyes.
er.... it's got a cube.... i don't see what was impressive about the multitasking?

ok yeah that vid wasn't that impressive but it was just to show how nice and smooth it runs.
here's an example of multitasking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVc7wjrQ_j4

this guy opens up 5 different operation systems under ubuntu.. and it works.

and what's wrong with the cube??

cybahq wrote:i think you can run some win apps if you install a win emulator or vm ware

yeah the program is called 'Wine'

2manynoobs · Post by **2manynoobs** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:45 am

still not convinec of it's power

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9BmgenrKWc&feature=fvw

10 second boot...

kyran · Post by **kyran** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:07 pm

You can run quite some windows apps on ubuntu using wine, which is an implementation of the windows libraries. If it works on wine, it'll run with the same performance as on windows. Just not every program works on wine.

Stuff that's known to work is Reaper (it even has official support for this) and energyXT2. Quite a lot of plugins will also work, typically the weaker the copy protection the more chance you have it'll work on wine. Stuff that uses a dongle (like cubase) will never work in wine.

There's also a few native daws
1. Ardour: free open source protools like program. The current version only has audio, but version 3 will support midi too. Also supports windows vst's
2. LMMS: open source FL clone. It's ok, though not as fully featured as FL
3. Renoise: cool tracker, supports linux vsts (stuff specialy combined for linux), the build in fx rock too.
4. EnergyXT2: nice simple daw. Also supports linux vsts. You might be better off running the windows version through wine though, because you can run more plugins this way.

Also do not forget to install jack, which is a sort of rewire on steroids.

If you want to do it the easy way, intall ubuntu studio. It's a version of ubuntu that comes preinstalled with lots of audio tools and has the necessary performance tweaks (such as optimisation for realtime performance) right out of the box.

serox · Post by **serox** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:10 pm

Try installing 'wine'. This will let you install DAWs I think,

2manynoobs · Post by **2manynoobs** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:18 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uEe5O ... re=related

another kickass video

@Kyran

Wow did you copy paste that or do you just know that much ubuntu?

2manynoobs · Post by **2manynoobs** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:27 pm

yeah well i also read about installing OS X on your pc
maybe that's an option? Anyone experience with that?

serox · Post by **serox** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:35 pm

A mate has said not to bother with Ubuntu if you are into making music/graphics:/

He said you can get things working but not all functions will work and not a good idea unless you are prepared to do some work to compile x x x etc

Goodluck.

2manynoobs · Post by **2manynoobs** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:45 pm

boyce1 wrote:Although, i wouldnt rely on a hacked osx for music production. I know it looks fun and everything, but i can assure you it wont help in the longrun. Your better off either sticking with your XP or buying a mac and logic whatever.

ah well thanks for the advice. I know that some pc's work with it and some don't but i'm building a new one and i'm researching and talking to people who have osx running smooth like a on real mac on their pc's. So i'm just gonna try it for fun ^^ It might work out ..

hurlingdervish · Post by **hurlingdervish** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:51 pm

just wondering so dont hate

what is the point of having ubuntu?

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:53 pm

ah the bloatware of noob nix distros

serox · Post by **serox** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:54 pm

hurlingdervish wrote:just wondering so dont hate

what is the point of having ubuntu?

none when it comes to making music.

Its a more basic version of Linux but you will run into loads of problems trying to get DAWs/VSTs working.

mickledan · Post by **mickledan** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:03 pm

i only settled with LMMS

the older version i used, as was entirely stable, not the newest one, i can get the version numbers if you need but i'd have to reboot

it was a nice clean program, had the linux equivilant of VST's (can't remember the name of the plugin but as they where open source the veriety was great)

settled with a step drum sequencer, midi (keyboard) layout for synths ( comes with oscs strings and a lovely bit crushed device)

plus came with a nice selection of samples, immediate wav/aif + all that jazz sample inclusion (drag and drop)

overall for the level i was at with my production it did everything i needed.

(edit)
i meant to say, if you want to take it further, install jack. its your bestest friiend - routes anything to anything -

also simply search these forums for ubuntu studio + Jack stuff, i've seen a good few rundowns of jack on here.

good luck - open source - keep it real.

dokie · Post by **dokie** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:41 pm

Deadly Habit wrote:ah the bloatware of noob nix distros

kyran · Post by **kyran** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:14 am

2ManyNoobs wrote:@Kyran

Wow did you copy paste that or do you just know that much ubuntu?

I run kubuntu for all my work, except for music and I maintain a linux computing grid at work. I'd really like switching over to linux for music too, but I'd be missing out on too many things I've got used to. Once FL or Live start working reliably under wine I'll probably switch.

btw: I do think you can use linux for graphics work. The wine guys make a priority out of getting photoshop to work.

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