MJ Cole - Sincere (Nero Remix)

[erra]

Should never of done it, Sincere is untouchable..

[string]

What is a wobble?

You've made dnb for long enough, i know you know what it is!

Well I'd say its usually a square wave with a 'squeltchy' resonant lfo on it playing a pattern that accentuates the feeling of wobbling around. I think what you're doing is confusing lfo with wobble. Or do you think that synthesizers should start replacing lfo with the word 'wobble'?

yeah I think it should be replaced with the word 'wobble', just so that all good producers know to keep the fuck away from it

hahahahahaha i cant believe you said that dude, that's the most ridiculous statement I've seen on this forum. Filters are a crucial part of subtractive synthesis, LFOs on filters equally as important and widely used since the dawn of synthesizers. You're basically writing off the majority of electronic music.

wow you exposed my lack of knowledge on production! but you'd think with all that knowledge you have you'd be able to make a decent tune

[dubstee]

Technical knowledge does not guarantee the ability to make good music.

Quite liked the Streets remix in a commercial trance guilty pleasure kind of way, but this is one a travesty.

[dubstee]

Nero is a 'name/face' and Blackdown is a 'name/face' and I feel this should be off the board

Blackdown is a commentator therefore he comments.

[rob sparx]

You've made dnb for long enough, i know you know what it is!

Well I'd say its usually a square wave with a 'squeltchy' resonant lfo on it playing a pattern that accentuates the feeling of wobbling around. I think what you're doing is confusing lfo with wobble. Or do you think that synthesizers should start replacing lfo with the word 'wobble'?

yeah I think it should be replaced with the word 'wobble', just so that all good producers know to keep the fuck away from it

hahahahahaha i cant believe you said that dude, that's the most ridiculous statement I've seen on this forum. Filters are a crucial part of subtractive synthesis, LFOs on filters equally as important and widely used since the dawn of synthesizers. You're basically writing off the majority of electronic music.

wow you exposed my lack of knowledge on production! but you'd think with all that knowledge you have you'd be able to make a decent tune

There's no wobble in this tune - if there was I think Nero would have recieved death threats by now lol!

So you think we should all stay away from wobble then - what about tunes like Mystikz Haunted then? You are full of shit

[deamonds]

Technical knowledge does not guarantee the ability to make good music.

ive got a streets vs zomby bootlegg wheich is alot..

agree with said statement entirely, case point, burial

[dazid]

To be honest, the intro. is quality. He's done a good job with the intro.

The rest of the tune however, I'm definitely not feeling.

Sorry mate.

[dubstee]

There's no wobble in this tune - if there was I think Nero would have recieved death threats by now lol!

So you think we should all stay away from wobble then - what about tunes like Mystikz Haunted then? You are full of shit

When people are talking about wobble in this thread I think they are referring to the triplets bass pattern, which is as overused as LFO lines in some parts of dubstep at the moment (and for the past god knows how long).

Haunted was made 4 years ago, not sure why people are still ripping it off tbh.

[bandshell]

People are always going to rip off something good, doesn't matter how old it is.

[dubstee]

People are always going to rip off something good, doesn't matter how old it is.

You'd think that when planning a rip off of another tune you'd try to pick one that hasn't been ripped off 1000 times already? But then I guess these wobble/triplet producers don't have much imagination.

[string]

Well I'd say its usually a square wave with a 'squeltchy' resonant lfo on it playing a pattern that accentuates the feeling of wobbling around. I think what you're doing is confusing lfo with wobble. Or do you think that synthesizers should start replacing lfo with the word 'wobble'?

yeah I think it should be replaced with the word 'wobble', just so that all good producers know to keep the fuck away from it

hahahahahaha i cant believe you said that dude, that's the most ridiculous statement I've seen on this forum. Filters are a crucial part of subtractive synthesis, LFOs on filters equally as important and widely used since the dawn of synthesizers. You're basically writing off the majority of electronic music.

wow you exposed my lack of knowledge on production! but you'd think with all that knowledge you have you'd be able to make a decent tune

There's no wobble in this tune - if there was I think Nero would have recieved death threats by now lol!

So you think we should all stay away from wobble then - what about tunes like Mystikz Haunted then? You are full of shit

nah you got me wrong, i said DECENT producers should stay away from wobble

and as for haunted, well, i prefer the flip side

Haunted was made 4 years ago, not sure why people are still ripping it off tbh.

pretty much sums it up

[tommatee]

hahahahahaha i cant believe you said that dude, that's the most ridiculous statement I've seen on this forum. Filters are a crucial part of subtractive synthesis, LFOs on filters equally as important and widely used since the dawn of synthesizers. You're basically writing off the majority of electronic music.

wow you exposed my lack of knowledge on production! but you'd think with all that knowledge you have you'd be able to make a decent tune

hahaha This!

[duck]

don't really get this... how does a remix "ruin" the original tune.

if you wanna listen to the Nero remix cool, if you don't, get the original out and ignore the Nero version. problem solved.

you can sort me out the cash later, yeah?

[rob sparx]

yeah I think it should be replaced with the word 'wobble', just so that all good producers know to keep the fuck away from it

hahahahahaha i cant believe you said that dude, that's the most ridiculous statement I've seen on this forum. Filters are a crucial part of subtractive synthesis, LFOs on filters equally as important and widely used since the dawn of synthesizers. You're basically writing off the majority of electronic music.

wow you exposed my lack of knowledge on production! but you'd think with all that knowledge you have you'd be able to make a decent tune

There's no wobble in this tune - if there was I think Nero would have recieved death threats by now lol!

So you think we should all stay away from wobble then - what about tunes like Mystikz Haunted then? You are full of shit

nah you got me wrong, i said DECENT producers should stay away from wobble

and as for haunted, well, i prefer the flip side

Haunted was made 4 years ago, not sure why people are still ripping it off tbh.

pretty much sums it up

You should appreciate wobble as you are clearly a fucking retard in suggesting producers shouldn't use LFOs - fuck right off!!

[string]

hahahahahaha i cant believe you said that dude, that's the most ridiculous statement I've seen on this forum. Filters are a crucial part of subtractive synthesis, LFOs on filters equally as important and widely used since the dawn of synthesizers. You're basically writing off the majority of electronic music.

wow you exposed my lack of knowledge on production! but you'd think with all that knowledge you have you'd be able to make a decent tune

There's no wobble in this tune - if there was I think Nero would have recieved death threats by now lol!

So you think we should all stay away from wobble then - what about tunes like Mystikz Haunted then? You are full of shit

nah you got me wrong, i said DECENT producers should stay away from wobble

and as for haunted, well, i prefer the flip side

Haunted was made 4 years ago, not sure why people are still ripping it off tbh.

pretty much sums it up

You should appreciate wobble as you are clearly a fucking retard in suggesting producers shouldn't use LFOs - fuck right off!!

why should i appreciate wobble, its fucking shit and is made by idiots, no soul, no substance

so fuck off yourself

[subonedubstep]

).

Haunted was made 4 years ago, not sure why people are still ripping it off tbh.

This!

[dubstee]

You should appreciate wobble as you are clearly a fucking retard in suggesting producers shouldn't use LFOs - fuck right off!!

Missing the point here I think Rob... the complaint isn't about using LFOs per se, it's the ubiquitous trend of using a mid range synth line with a simple low pass cutoff LFO on it, over the top of a sub and a half step beat. Or just a triplets synth/sub line with the same sort of beat, as in this remix. It's SUCH a cliche, and it's SO unimaginative. People are more than justified in rallying against it.

[.rudetone.]

Even the last DMZ seemed to be full of tunes with that generic dnb kick drum build up to generic drop (duh-duh-duh-duh-duhduhduhduhduhduhduhduh----drop), each to their own and all that but isn't it all getting a bit fucking dull and predictable now?

Noticed this a lot and yes, it is getting VERY fucking dull and predictable now...to the point that I am sick of a lot of 'Dubstep'.

Don't mind that Nero remix, nothing special but not worth a slating..and I find the oldies kicking off about it quite funny.

don't really get this... how does a remix "ruin" the original tune.

It doesn't

[bandshell]

lol some intense hating in this thread now, seems to getting out of hand.

I suggest everyone go off and write a haiku, maybe have a sandwich and a cup of tea. (This statement can be as patronizing as you want )

[nakedlunch]

I suggest everyone go off and write a haiku,

Trying to Remix Sincere
Is like picking up a turd
From the clean end.