Software advice?

s i c k b o y · Post by **s i c k b o y** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:07 am

Oreet!
I'm looking into getting some new software but not quite sure what is best for my needs... I'm currently using Reason 4 which is great for MIDI, but I need to be able to record real instruments (and my copy of Reason 4 has files missing so I can't do ReWire). I want to be able to record guitar, piano, vocals and bass guitar but also be able to make nice synth sounds and have decent drum programming. I've thought about getting Pro Tools 8 but I haven't heard much about it, I also considered Native Instruments Massive... anyone got any advice as to which would be the most suitable software? I need some decent reverb/delay effects available too.
Cheers

sifres · Post by **sifres** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:28 am

Your asking for a lot of info at once... Maybe check out this thread, and the DAWS part in particular.

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=14797

Personally I think everybody should use ableton... But hey, that's me!

mickledan · Post by **mickledan** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:29 am

or if ur happy with reason just wait for record to drop, does exactly what it says on the tin

check the prop site

lowpass · Post by **lowpass** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:44 am

Think records already out (by a few weeks)

I'd think about cubase if you are new to recording, pro tools is good but its a bit complex and expensive (even if you get le)

massive is a very good synth for raw sounds, lvoe it

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:02 am

cubase or pro tools

djake · Post by **djake** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:43 am

one word ABLETON!

ponte_ricky · Post by **ponte_ricky** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:47 am

whats massive? i'd never heard of it before i came on here. is it another DAW?

djake · Post by **djake** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:48 am

its a synth from native instruments

http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/ ... r/massive/

ruaridh · Post by **ruaridh** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:54 am

id go with protools or cubase and then download the missing files from your reason 4. then you can rewire and not be as confused for the learning curve of your new daw.

also there is a rediculous amount of video and book tutorials on how to use both of them.especiallly pro tools.

but if your just looking to record most daws will do it for ya

s i c k b o y · Post by **s i c k b o y** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:08 pm

from what i've read online it seems like you need specific hardware for cubase and pro tools... on the propellerhead website it says that Record comes out 9th September... I've got hold of a copy of FL Studio 8, gonna have a go with that and try figure out how to ReWire it into Reason 4 for now - hopefully il get Record when it comes out in September.
Thanks for the advice guys

ruaridh · Post by **ruaridh** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:12 pm

yea you need ilocs and usb dongle thingys for protools and cubase

but cubase has direct note access...

spkta · Post by **spkta** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:03 pm

fl8 is great, once you get rewire all figured out try ableton too, i believe it comes with a recording device and its great for performing live. if not, i think reaktor is good for this but i cant say as ive never used it... might be something completely different...

Arshaw · Post by **Arshaw** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:43 am

djake wrote:one word ABLETON!

+ 1

futures_untold · Post by **futures_untold** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:57 am

For ease of use and value for money, FL Studio, Ableton and Reaper are great. If you have lots of cash, Cubase (dongle), Pro Tools (hardware interfaces) and Logic (Mac) are the way forwards. (or if you think up/down instead of sideways, try Renoise, which is also very cheap).

Your 'copy' of Reason should have all the files present. Try reinstalling it or obtaining a new (legal?) copy.

I've voiced this before, but for me, Cubase makes my head go dizzy trying to get around the convoluted workflow. (Although plenty of cubase users here will disagree no doubt).

Personally, Ableton, Logic and Reaper have been the easiest and most accessible programs I've used.

Download some demos as mentioned above and test them for yourself before purchasing!

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:18 pm

Ruaridh wrote:yea you need ilocs and usb dongle thingys for protools and cubase

but cubase has direct note access...

it's not an ilok it's the steinberg key. pro tools requires the mbox and an ilok.

contakt321 · Post by **contakt321** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:39 pm

this Kid named Lamont wrote:
djake wrote:one word ABLETON!
+ 1

+1

I can't recommend Ableton enough for being incredibly intuitive and having a quick workflow.

That being said, download some demos and see what works best for you.

Jah Billah · Post by **Jah Billah** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:44 pm

sickboy leeds wrote: I've got hold of a copy of FL Studio 8, gonna have a go with that and try figure out how to ReWire it into Reason 4 for now -

On the right track here, but mek sure you have Ableton as master, run Reason & FL as slaves. Add bunch of samples & VSTs n you're good to go!!!!!

alphacat · Post by **alphacat** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:36 pm

Even though I just switched over to it from another DAW and still have a lot to learn...

REAPER. (http://www.reaper.fm)

The feature set in this program is quite robust and getting bigger every day; MIDI editing capabilities are decent (better than Acid's anyway) and improving at a rapid pace; plugin support is great; and best of all? You don't have to spend anything to get going with the full version!

Seriously, I've been working in Acid for over a decade and was worried that making the switch would be difficult - but the workflow is actually turning out to be smoother despite not knowing a fraction of the commands, functionality, all that.

At worst just download it and play with it a bit - if it works, great, you've found your new DAW. If not, great, now you know a little bit more overall anyway... without spending a shitload of cash to find out.

But don't take my word for it, just ask any one of the other Reaper users - old and new - floating around here, like Futures_Untold...

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