i cant make a dubstep song for the life of me

tripwire22 · Post by **tripwire22** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:40 pm

all i can do is make a kick on 1 and snare on 3rd... how do i get the shuffle sound of the drums when ever i try i just comes out like down tempo or something

norman swashbuckle · Post by **norman swashbuckle** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:46 pm

i have this problem............. unquantise maybe........ get your hats rolling into the snare
diff hats on the offbeats

futures_untold · Post by **futures_untold** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:50 pm

There are a few ways.

The first is to set your quantise grid to triplets, ie 1/16t or 1/32t. Alternatively, turn snapping off and place your hits by hand.

The second is to put your drums through a delay unit set to 1/3 or 3/4 (or an synch timing that isn't 1/n 2/n 4/n etc etc)

Another route to take is to layer multiple drum/precussion lines. this gets hectic quickly, but often sounds cool too.

osky · Post by **osky** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:54 pm

collige · Post by **collige** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:06 pm

hihat on 4th, 7th, 12, and 15th 16th notes makes a generic dubstep beat.

emef · Post by **emef** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:17 pm

haha you'd think it was rocket science or summat

stapleface · Post by **stapleface** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:20 pm

emef wrote:haha you'd think it was rocket science or summat

not seen any of your tunes in my local vinyl shop mate xD

magnetron_sputtering · Post by **magnetron_sputtering** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:32 pm

Fuck's sake, every song since like the forties has a kick on the 1 and a snare on the 3. Turn on your radio. Kick on the one, snare on the 3. Whoever thought that up as some kind of definition for dubstep obviously hadn't heard popular music from the 20th century before.

Ok I know that's a bit much of a generalisation but you get my point.

collective · Post by **collective** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:58 pm

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deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:32 am

haha you'd think it's rocket science or something
link to releases so i can talk shit

cloak and dagger · Post by **cloak and dagger** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:21 am

Deadly Habit wrote:haha you'd think it's rocket science or something
link to releases so i can talk shit

Holy shit, are you Guru, or Primo?

To be fair though, I listened to your track on there, and you're right, the beat isn't rocket science...but it seems like that's not really the kind of beat this guy's trying to make. I don't really hear any shuffle in there.

I'm not sure if this will help, but I've found more so than beat placement, triplets, swing templates, etc. is sound selection...at least when making garagey stuff. It always amazed me that these teenagers from the hood could make really swingy beats on their Playstations while I couldn't get anything that sounded that coherent...and I realized only after lots of trial and error that it's all about the percussive sounds you use and their timbre...you can make a great swingy beat, replace the sounds with others, and it'll lose all that swing.

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:28 am

yea i have some swingish/garagey stuff too
to be fair alot of those hood types have mpcs you thats a bit more humanized
but yeah using shuffle or triplets will give you that swing to your hats

chronicrecords · Post by **chronicrecords** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 2:57 am

not sure if u use fruity but this will be helpful either way.

very basic easy tutorial on how to achieve a shuffley type dubstep beat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCwfyNS08cE

tripwire22 · Post by **tripwire22** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 5:32 am

actually thanks alot for the tips this helped

hummer197933 · Post by **hummer197933** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 5:40 am

try to keep the bass drum with the syncopation of track...works for me...

just don't try to follow the styles that are popular and out there...try to make your own groves and expand on them...

like if you find a groove that you like on a dubstep song...break it down...and analyze it to see how you might flip it...or go for a mood...i love gangster sounding drum gooves...like the west coast rocks remix by caspa...
so i've been trying to expand on that feel and shit... 808's and shit...haha
also work on variations of hi hat patterns to kinda soften the groove and also pick it up....

triplets work wonders also...haha

sorry if i kinda went off topic

ketamine · Post by **ketamine** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:30 pm

Deadly Habit wrote:haha you'd think it's rocket science or something
link to releases so i can talk shit

spkta · Post by **spkta** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:43 pm

well, to be honest, ive been keeping up with your latest piano short and i really dug the shuffle you had going there, it's a pretty slick beat and i said as much in my comment... anyhow, as far as advice goes: putting a kick on 1 and a snare on 3 is the bare bones 2 step beat. what I like to do is put the snare on 3 7 11 and 15, then after the first kick on the first bar start putting them slightly offbeat like on 5.5 instead of just bar 5, 5 and 6 or something like that, but always try to keep a snare going every 4 bars or so, and occasionally at the end of the bar put a kick on 15.5 then a snare on 15.75.. dunno what they call that one. the hats you have going can also really help give it that feel of a shuffle. but to be honest dude, i think i could learn a lot more about making beats from you than you could from me >.<

but this is all fruity loops shit too :-/

hope that helped.

kevlar · Post by **kevlar** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:06 pm

youtubes got quite a few tutorials on plus plenty about on the net for anything you need really... search a few in google!!

i cant make a dubstep song for the life of me

i cant make a dubstep song for the life of me

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