Missing link between Drum'n'Bass and Dubstep.

[izm]

Eyo all.

You know you sometimes get a d'n'b album and somewhere at the end of it there's a track in a d'n'b tempo but with completely different approach to the rhythm section?

The one sounding pretty much like dub or instrumental hiphop or maybe minimal techno or some "how the fuck I listen to that?" type of style.

I first noticed that on Jonny L's Magnetic back in 1998 and got hooked on collecting such material on vinyl. I started playing radio sets composed of such stuff in 2003 after Amit has emerged and perfected the dub styles in d'n'b.

Now with al the dubstep hype I'm sometimes wondering - with all of the d'n'b influences how much does dubstep owe d'n'b? How much dubstep is there to be found in d'n'b and vice versa? How do those two relate to each other?

And with this in mind I recorded the set below. It's made entirely of Drum'n'Bass tracks but the ones where dub influences are most significant.

So check it out and tell me - is it still d'n'b? Or is it dubstep yet?

http://www.shadowhuntaz.com/Eskapizm/RiversOfDub.mp3

RIVERS OF DUB TRACKLIST:

1 - A. R. RAHMAN / MUMBAI THEME TUNE / MANGO RECORDS
2 – JONNY L / IN VAIN / XL
3 – TRONIK / THE SERPENT / CHEMICAL WARFARE
4 – POLAR / BACKLIGHT / CERTIFICATE 18
5 – TERTIUS / STRUCTURE [DEEP BLUE REMIX] / PARTISAN
6 – DOM&ROLAND / BREAK OUT / MOVING SHADOW
7 – SOURCE DIRECT / TECHNICAL WARFARE / SCIENCE
8 – AMIT / IMMIGRANTS / BINGO
9 – DYLAN + RAIDEN / PREACHERMAN / FREAK
10 – DOM&ROLAND / INDUSTRY / MOVING SHADOW
11 – JONNY L / WAREHOUSE / PIRANHA
12 – TRICORN / RAW 1000 / SINUOUS
13 – DYLAN / BLACK RAINBOW / OUTBREAK
14 – AMIT / ROOTS / COMMERCIAL SUICIDE
15 – EZ ROLLERS / DIFF STEP / MOVING SHADOW
16 – SONAR CIRCLE / THE KILLING JOKE / REINFORCED
17 – ANGELZERO / NOW / SUBTITLES
18 – PENDULUM / VAULT / 31 RECORDS [DETAIL]
19 – PHOTEK / HALOGEN / SCIENCE

Thanks for checking this shiznitz out y'all.

[autonomic]

I hear what you're saying but really you have to look a lot earlier. Consider that dubstep starts forming around 2001, and it grows largely out of 2step garage, which was itself partly a reaction against drum and bass in the late-90s. It's more '93-'97 jungle that exerts a strong influence on people like el-b, kode9, etc. 2step and dubstep pretty much ignored more recent dnb until i guess the last few months when a lot of people from the dnb camp started taking notice of dubstep and making their own tracks.

[alex bk-bk]

there is no missing link

[autonomic]

Just to expand a bit..

Now with al the dubstep hype I'm sometimes wondering - with all of the d'n'b influences how much does dubstep owe d'n'b? How much dubstep is there to be found in d'n'b and vice versa? How do those two relate to each other?

Not a hell of a lot. There might be some superficial similarities at times but if you look at the way each works sonically and rhythmically they're doing very different things. Contemporary drum and bass doesn't even have much at all in common with mid-90s jungle.

[superisk]

It really doesnt matter

[fullyrecordingz]

there is no missing link

my mum's the missin link

[autonomic]

http://www.discogs.com/release/764595



http://www.discogs.com/release/73083

[little boh peep]

In other words, blatant spam for your d&b mix which you also triple posted on the Covert Ops forum?

[work yr soul]

I found the missing link. dubstep circa 1974:



we're through the looking glass people!

[Rob H]

there is no missing link

I personally still jam both dubstep and grime underneath the 'garage' spectrum as thats what they came from and what i grew up listening to

[mos dan]

In other words, blatant spam for your d&b mix which you also triple posted on the Covert Ops forum?

[kion]

[seckle]

In other words, blatant spam for your d&b mix which you also triple posted on the Covert Ops forum?

LOL

[alex bk-bk]

air

[autonomic]

In other words, blatant spam for your d&b mix which you also triple posted on the Covert Ops forum?

is that all this is about?

air

[showguns]

not downloading that

[necta selecta]

Welcome to the dubstep forum!

[little boh peep]

Welcome to the dubstep forum!

Indeed.

[echo wanderer]

In other words, blatant spam for your d&b mix which you also triple posted on the Covert Ops forum?

AHAHAHAHA!!!

"You are the missing link.GOODBYE!"

[yobar]

In other words, blatant spam for your d&b mix which you also triple posted on the Covert Ops forum?

haha, this is the same self-promoting prick who recently went to great lengths to trash dubstep, "a genre which will fade away just as quickly as it appeared", on dnb.pl. his posts set off a particularly funny flame war in which he was murked relentlessly and made to look a complete twat, much to the amusement of a large number of people.

showing up here is just sad, IZM.