Reverbs & Delays - Do You Insert or Use Sends?

[setspeed]

but also because i like to EQ or effect the reverb return without affecting the original signal.

Like reverbs w/ eq abilities built in.

yeah EQ, or gating, or compressing, delaying, phasers, etc

[my_fickle_eye]

I bus the drums together with a compressor and i just change the reverb wet/dry using automation on the same bus, but i rarely put reverb on anything but the drums. And i dont use a drum machine.

I guess sends just send part of the signal to the effect while everything will go through an insert.

I also put filters + other effects on a group channel (cubase) and will send multiple synths through them so you can get the same cut of and resonance with everything in one handy filter. (and it effects the whole sound)

[deadly_habit]

seee on my cubase busses i have a dry drum bus for overall a 100% verb one then sometimes a third where i may blend the 2 as prefader sends once i'm happy with the 2 to gel together some more so verb sounds more natural to the kit

[collige]

Insert 100%. I rarely, if ever use sends for anything in my mixes.

[deadly_habit]

Insert 100%. I rarely, if ever use sends for anything in my mixes.

yea you can get away with that if it has a wet/dry mix on it which alot do but a send will give you more control
plus with a send you have pre send eq settings and post eq option

[youthful_implants]

seee on my cubase busses i have a dry drum bus for overall a 100% verb one then sometimes a third where i may blend the 2 as prefader sends once i'm happy with the 2 to gel together some more so verb sounds more natural to the kit

Yeah I do the same, and also using parallel compression on a third.

[deadly_habit]

seee on my cubase busses i have a dry drum bus for overall a 100% verb one then sometimes a third where i may blend the 2 as prefader sends once i'm happy with the 2 to gel together some more so verb sounds more natural to the kit

Yeah I do the same, and also using parallel compression on a third.

yea sometimes calls for that sometimes reg sometimes sidechained
i love cubase busses

[youthful_implants]

seee on my cubase busses i have a dry drum bus for overall a 100% verb one then sometimes a third where i may blend the 2 as prefader sends once i'm happy with the 2 to gel together some more so verb sounds more natural to the kit

Yeah I do the same, and also using parallel compression on a third.

yea sometimes calls for that sometimes reg sometimes sidechained
i love cubase busses

me too, such a flexible setup.

[collige]

Insert 100%. I rarely, if ever use sends for anything in my mixes.

yea you can get away with that if it has a wet/dry mix on it which alot do but a send will give you more control
plus with a send you have pre send eq settings and post eq option

Renoise lets me pre eq anyway. For delays, I can just create a duplicate track without delay and mute the source on the one with it.

[deadly_habit]

seee on my cubase busses i have a dry drum bus for overall a 100% verb one then sometimes a third where i may blend the 2 as prefader sends once i'm happy with the 2 to gel together some more so verb sounds more natural to the kit

Yeah I do the same, and also using parallel compression on a third.

yea sometimes calls for that sometimes reg sometimes sidechained
i love cubase busses

me too, such a flexible setup.

yup like having a virtual rack and studio like reason minus using virtual cabling and views

[youthful_implants]

seee on my cubase busses i have a dry drum bus for overall a 100% verb one then sometimes a third where i may blend the 2 as prefader sends once i'm happy with the 2 to gel together some more so verb sounds more natural to the kit

Yeah I do the same, and also using parallel compression on a third.

yea sometimes calls for that sometimes reg sometimes sidechained
i love cubase busses

me too, such a flexible setup.

yup like having a virtual rack and studio like reason minus using virtual cabling and views

yeah its a lot less confusing for sure.

a mate of mine showed me his rack (lol) and it was a total headfuck in Reason.

dunno how people do it.

[wormcode]

Both, inserts for single effects... like a vocal with a huge delay. Send when I want parts to gel together, like drums for example.

[deadly_habit]

Yeah I do the same, and also using parallel compression on a third.

yea sometimes calls for that sometimes reg sometimes sidechained
i love cubase busses

me too, such a flexible setup.

yup like having a virtual rack and studio like reason minus using virtual cabling and views

yeah its a lot less confusing for sure.

a mate of mine showed me his rack (lol) and it was a total headfuck in Reason.

dunno how people do it.

yea reason needs a patchbay like a real studio has to avoid the clusterfuck of wires you'd normally have

[HAACK]

Hey there, sorry if this is a noob-y question:

When using Reverbs and Delays, do you apply them per instrument on the channels you want them or do you just use a send adjust the send amount of each channel as needed?

Also, why?

Just trying to understand if there is a value to having several different reverbs or delays with different settings or if I should just have 1 or 2 on a send and adjust the send amount.

Thanks in advance!!!

I send reverb to various tracks as necessary, in addition, I layer reverb on certain channels in small quantities. There are many approaches but I would certainly refrain from using just two reverbs on a send for the whole tune, layer and use it for certain instruments. There is much to be gained from having separate sends for channels especially with drums, you can have numerous reverbs attached to seperate channels such as reverb on snare, delay on hihats, etc.

[scooterjack]

yea reason needs a patchbay like a real studio has to avoid the clusterfuck of wires you'd normally have

most of the real studios i work in, the patchbay is a clusterfuck of wires


+ you can turn off the wires in reason

[deadly_habit]

yea reason needs a patchbay like a real studio has to avoid the clusterfuck of wires you'd normally have

most of the real studios i work in, the patchbay is a clusterfuck of wires


+ you can turn off the wires in reason

heh yea if they don't have enough patchbays

i dunno me and reason never got along when attempting collabs
then again i built synths and such and rest was a mess to me due to weed

[youthful_implants]

yea reason needs a patchbay like a real studio has to avoid the clusterfuck of wires you'd normally have

most of the real studios i work in, the patchbay is a clusterfuck of wires


+ you can turn off the wires in reason

heh yea if they don't have enough patchbays

i dunno me and reason never got along when attempting collabs
then again i built synths and such and rest was a mess to me due to weed

story of my life.

I love Reason and I do use it rewired quite a bit, but I couldn't write a whole song in it.

[deadly_habit]

yea reason needs a patchbay like a real studio has to avoid the clusterfuck of wires you'd normally have

most of the real studios i work in, the patchbay is a clusterfuck of wires


+ you can turn off the wires in reason

heh yea if they don't have enough patchbays

i dunno me and reason never got along when attempting collabs
then again i built synths and such and rest was a mess to me due to weed

story of my life.

I love Reason and I do use it rewired quite a bit, but I couldn't write a whole song in it.

gpt mad respect to peeps like icr who churn out hit after hit using nothing but reason
real wires soooo much easier when baked

[paradigm_x]

re cubase groups - awesome, best way to work IMO, can send anything to anything else. Have about 20-25, will prob cut down now using 5 tho, FX Sends used to be really limited in SX3 so used groups for more flexibility, but FX Sends are much better in 5.

I have a group right at the end with a high pass and output (not send) all FX channels to that, gentle hi pass at around 2-300hz to remove LF mud from reverbs etc.

Parallel compression...

dBGlitch on a send, glitch reverbs and delays...

A hipass group for all synths, pads etc that dont need it.

Kick group, snare group, perc group, all into drum group (with 33609 on it ... =0 ) for max flexibility.

Also putting a compressor (LA2A) after the delays to control mad feedbacks. Sned delays to phasers etc... possibilities are endless.

Groups FTMFW !