has dubstep reached its high point?

[swomp]

im sorry yeah but what was agressive about my thread topic i only got pissed of cos this claw guy was callin me a noob then few heads started beefin me just cos claw did if that isn't what a fanboy is then what isn't?

I don't think it was because claw said it. I think it was because everyone is so sick of these boring posts. There is about 5 a week on here these days, and it is the same answer every time. Its people like you fretting that its all shit is the only thing really making any negative effects.

I'm all for discussion but this has been discussed to death, so to come on to a dubstep forum about how dubstep is dead/dying/reached its high point is ridiculous.

Speak for yourself.

I doubt the 'everyone' you speak of would appreciate your trying to speak for them.

This discussion is not riDICKulous. give me a break. who do you think you are ? <laff

The more frett the better, but thats just me. This is my opinion (freely expressed.)

All due respect you but I think you couldnt be more wrong. swamp ole' buddy.

The 'everyone' I spoke of refers to the people that geistgurn accused of just copying what claw said.

And good for you, theres pleanty of frett(waffle) on this forum. Have fun.

[jittery]

[manray]

Most of the people I know that listen to Dubstep listen to the shitty chainsaw wobbles that everyone on here goes on about all the fucking time.

Caspa drops a tune and everyone jumps up and down like fucking apes on crack. Silkie drops a tune and get a few appreciative nods. If your lucky it might get enough nods to catch a rewind lol.

I remember going to dubstep changed my life a few years back and it was just pure vibes. The last dubstep event I went to in Herbal was a fuckin joke, just pure noise with a bunch of stnuc getting hyped.

Doesn't mean dubstep is dying, but right now it's a tiny scene in comparison and it's mostly driven by the DJ's and the club nights... and those are right now catering for mass appeal.

It's only when a scene can get big enough will you start to see more diversity, like dnb nights where you will have 1 mad hype room, 1 relaxed chill out room and 1 jungle room.

[manray]

Dubstep died in 1987

I can take you back there bro : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoXWnAeredA

[DZA]

Dubstep died in 1987

I can take you back there bro : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoXWnAeredA

Big!

[cyrusfx]

Dubstep's not dead. I saw him walking out of WalMart the other day.

[don froth]

There will always be heaters in dubstep / future dubgarage / dubwobblebassfunkystep etc. A lot of known and unknown taste makers are putting out greatness, and inspiration always follows. Its' on a good roll, I am always looking forward to the next drop.

are you the Foam/Uptown Fade Don Froth?

if so, that's one of the best records i've bought in a good while.

Yes yes, thanks for the support. Means a lot man...

[Province]

Dubstep's not dead. I saw him walking out of WalMart the other day.

hes got a kid and the new sony playstation aswell.

[q23]

This is exactly what happened to DnB in the late 90s.

1. People get pissed because it all starts to sound "the same".

2. Someone does something different and 55 people post in the same thread that "its not dubstep"-> like this genre of music has a pre defined set of parameter lines that cant be crossed or people will not accept it.

3. The genre continues to sound the same due to producers understanding that the definitive sound every self proclaimed expert has crammed into their heads has to be adhered to, or their records will not sell, continue to be signed etc.

4. The number people trying to be different and actually succeeding falls dramatically, and those who do succeed get lumped into that left field "experimental, we cant classify your music" category.

What you end up with is a condensed genre of music that has a more fixed beat that does nothing with a bassline that has three distortion effects on it, and two drops per track. Sound familiar?

Welcome to DnB part 2.

I know I will likely be eShat­® on for this, but I am definately not the first nor the last person to see it all going in this seemingly predetermined direction.

[joe muggs]

This is exactly what happened to DnB in the late 90s.

1. People get pissed because it all starts to sound "the same".

2. Someone does something different and 55 people post in the same thread that "its not dubstep"-> like this genre of music has a pre defined set of parameter lines that cant be crossed or people will not accept it.

3. The genre continues to sound the same due to producers understanding that the definitive sound every self proclaimed expert has crammed into their heads has to be adhered to, or their records will not sell, continue to be signed etc.

4. The number people trying to be different and actually succeeding falls dramatically, and those who do succeed get lumped into that left field "experimental, we cant classify your music" category.

What you end up with is a condensed genre of music that has a more fixed beat that does nothing with a bassline that has three distortion effects on it, and two drops per track. Sound familiar?

Welcome to DnB part 2.

I know I will likely be eShat­® on for this, but I am definately not the first nor the last person to see it all going in this seemingly predetermined direction.

I've said this on other threads, but there is NO reason it should go the same way as DnB.

Look, for example, at Techno. Starting underground in Detroit and Belgium, it was known to a very very few as it grew from 1983-1987, became globally known in 88-89 and set up new centres in e.g. Berlin, Frankfurt, Glasgow, London etc, then just kept on growing, and is still evolving and creating fresh variants around the world 25 years - TWENTY FIVE YEARS - on... It has split, changed, been argued over, been declared dead, changed its audiences, changed the drugs that are consumed, but it is still Techno!

[q23]

You are absolutely right Joe - but what people call techno nowdays has a much narrower definition that what people called techno say....15 years ago.

I think people are being very ironic when they complain that nothing new is happening in the genre but will not accept anything new being classified as that same genre. Even more irony gets tossed into the kettle when the genre is influenced by 900 other different preceeding styles of music.

I liked the explanation I saw in a documentary the best, where it was said that the beat and the bass are the only constants, and you can use anything else you want to go over the top of those constant elements. In that explanation, the possibilities are limitless.

[anabur]

dubstep is like any form of music: it'll stagnate a while, then get innovated by new styles/directions......and the purists will say "This isn't real dubstep."
Just like how now there's whiny pop-punk that "isn't REAL punk music."
But no, it'll keep growing and getting better (even if it's slowly); it'll just branch off into separate sounds, like house music expanding to house/hard house/UK hard house/microhouse/deep house/disco house and on and on

[dspn]

No, dubstep ain't reached its peak. Just like Dub and Reggae hasnt reached its peak either.

I think you are reading way too much innit. Agressive ? <laff...

Chicken shit.

You're staring at plasma man. Zeros and ones. *shrug*

Nice is for cigarettes. You can take your nice and shove-it where the sun don't shine. the internet is full of way to many bullshit artists such as yourself telling people to be nice. I got your nice right here *grabs his balls*

Enough with this fantasy-land bullshit sucking eachothers wangs between circle jerks la-la land that is your internet. *pisses on your shoe*

well then fuck you cocklord motherfucker


as i was saying, geistgurn, calling me fanboy out of 1 reply is just bullshit, i'm in no way licking anyones balls here i just shared mr Claws opinion and was.. well pretty stoned at the moment, but isn't understandable that people hate your type of question, when trying hard to make their shit work, the kinda stuff they like.. ?

not that i care too much, blatter on y'know.. shit's funny

[crutch]

No, dubstep ain't reached its peak. Just like Dub and Reggae hasnt reached its peak either.

I think you are reading way too much innit. Agressive ? <laff...

Chicken shit.

You're staring at plasma man. Zeros and ones. *shrug*

Nice is for cigarettes. You can take your nice and shove-it where the sun don't shine. the internet is full of way to many bullshit artists such as yourself telling people to be nice. I got your nice right here *grabs his balls*

Enough with this fantasy-land bullshit sucking eachothers wangs between circle jerks la-la land that is your internet. *pisses on your shoe*

well then fuck you cocklord motherfucker


as i was saying, geistgurn, calling me fanboy out of 1 reply is just bullshit, i'm in no way licking anyones balls here i just shared mr Claws opinion and was.. well pretty stoned at the moment, but isn't understandable that people hate your type of question, when trying hard to make their shit work, the kinda stuff they like.. ?

not that i care too much, blatter on y'know.. shit's funny

I was trying to be funny.

Glad to know it worked.

I wasnt talking to you anyway.

sorry but what?! GO OUTSIDE. you are a joke

[atomic dogg]

wat are you guys refeing to when you say standard wobblers -


Give us some examples, tracks ect.
Q23 - Though im not sure i totally agree, your opinion is one thats crossed my mind.