Am I the only one to not like resampling?

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Am I the only one to not like resampling?

Post by vertex » Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:32 pm

I don't really know why, I think it may be because once I've resampled I know you then can't tweak the sound later on.... Plus you get strange things goin on when you raise and lower the pitch as it changed the speed also...

I prefer just to use loads and loads of devices in Reason instead, even if it does get a little messy!

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Post by contakt321 » Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:33 pm

I used to feel the same way, but after a lot of trial and error have changed my tune. I like the differences when you raise the pitch (although sometimes I make multisamples). .

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Post by two oh one » Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:34 pm

Resampling could also be GOOD because you can't endlessly tweak things.

Some people never finish things because they don't know when to stop futzing around with the patches.

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Post by hurlingdervish » Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:37 pm

its not resampling VS. automation

its just another tool in the toolbox

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Post by alphacat » Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:46 pm

hurlingdervish wrote:its not resampling VS. automation

its just another tool in the toolbox
+1.

Resampling poorly is essentially no worse than abusing pre-sets.

Done right (see: Jack Dangers' entire catalog, Hive's first two albums, etc.) it becomes more than the sum of its recycled parts.

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Post by 86. » Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:22 pm

^^you got a myspace link?

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Post by Rickmansworth » Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:24 pm

im just lazy, thats why i hate it.

in ableton, the most accurate way ive found of resampling is to record/render to new wav...

this process just takes a long time, so i find myself rarely doing it. pretty ridiculous actually, bc in the long run i end up wasting more time because of cpu lag.

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Post by therapist » Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:29 pm

two oh one wrote:Resampling could also be GOOD because you can't endlessly tweak things.

Some people never finish things because they don't know when to stop futzing around with the patches.

;)
Yeah, this. I still don't have a tune yet I'd call 100% finished because I keep just moving things about by pointless Hzs. etc.

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Post by JFK » Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:33 pm

It really depends what sound you are going for imo.

If you want filthy bass and leads then you have to at least give it a go. For more ambient/minimal stuff then no probably not.

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Post by DZA » Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:33 pm

Resampling aint for me neither
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Post by gravity » Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:40 pm

depends what you are trying to do really, sometimes you cant get a certain sound without resampling, sometimes things sound better without.

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Post by contakt321 » Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:54 pm

rickmansworth wrote:im just lazy, thats why i hate it.

in ableton, the most accurate way ive found of resampling is to record/render to new wav...

this process just takes a long time, so i find myself rarely doing it. pretty ridiculous actually, bc in the long run i end up wasting more time because of cpu lag.
Just right click freeze, right click flatten...

OR:

What I do, is get a sound I like, then I create a midi pattern that is a C note at every octave playing for 8 bars each.

I record this to an audio track.

I set warp markers at the beginning of each note

Then I right click and slice to Sampler and it creates a Multi-sample instrument in Sampler.

Total time = maybe 2 min?
Result = Amazing

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Post by djerkov » Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:29 pm

I've got some ok stuff through resampling recently, but it does always seem to come out sounding a bit on the harsh side. Must be the distortion i'm using.
My current favourite kinds of sounds can be reached without using it, so for the time being i'll stick to my guns :lol:

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Post by 86. » Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:32 pm

last thing I resampled was some of that vinyl distortion. I ended up tweaking it and throwing effects on top of it. I think I might do it more often.

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Post by futures_untold » Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:45 pm

contakt321 wrote: Just right click freeze, right click flatten...

OR:

What I do, is get a sound I like, then I create a midi pattern that is a C note at every octave playing for 8 bars each.

I record this to an audio track.

I set warp markers at the beginning of each note

Then I right click and slice to Sampler and it creates a Multi-sample instrument in Sampler.

Total time = maybe 2 min?
Result = Amazing
Is that in Ableton?

That sounds fat :)

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Post by lojik » Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:49 pm

Nah not at all, I hardly ever resample!
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Post by contakt321 » Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:51 pm

futures_untold wrote:
contakt321 wrote: Just right click freeze, right click flatten...

OR:

What I do, is get a sound I like, then I create a midi pattern that is a C note at every octave playing for 8 bars each.

I record this to an audio track.

I set warp markers at the beginning of each note

Then I right click and slice to Sampler and it creates a Multi-sample instrument in Sampler.

Total time = maybe 2 min?
Result = Amazing
Is that in Ableton?

That sounds fat :)
Yes, in Ableton, sorry for not being clearer.

From there you could take it to the next level:

1. Create an Instrument Rack
2. Drag in the new Sampler
3. Option - Drag twice to create 3 of the same sampler.
4. Low pass one, mid pass the next, high pass the last
5. Effect them all differently and go apeshit
6. Drag in any synth to the instrument rack of just a sine wave for the sub.

Voila! Super bass, that you can play easily and have split into the right layers for a fat ass sound.

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