Any Logic Users Creating Dubstep? (what do you use?)

uncle bill · Post by **uncle bill** » Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:43 pm

I started using Logic about six months ago when my PC died and I had to start using our Mac for everything. I've got so into it I'm going to buy a Macbook and Logic 9 if I ever get any spare cash.

I reckon you can do pretty much anything inside Logic itself. Got some great sounds out of the ES1 monosynth and the EXS 24 sampler is really good. To be honest I'm only just scratching the surface. My background is in live music and I'm really new to electronic music production.

The main reason to use plug ins or other soft synths is if you find them easier to use than the built in stuff. I have to admit I'm finding Massive really easy to use at the moment and have got a bit obsessed with that instead of giving all the built in features as much time as they probably deserve.

Can't get on with the Ultrabeat though for some reason. I've been using the sampler for beats and just started fiddling about with iDrum which is MUCH easier to use than UB.

jolly wailer · Post by **jolly wailer** » Fri Aug 21, 2009 2:24 pm

TeReKeTe wrote:
Jolly Wailer wrote: I use ultrabeat and totally love it, find myself using the stock kits quite a bit - my only complaint would be that I seem to get alot of "digital-ish" high end noise from ultrabeat .. like a faint digital crush that isn't so easy on the ears .. anyone else experience this with ultrabeat?

I'd love some quick tips to phatten my drum sound more
ultrabeat is an ugly, ungainly beast but extremely powerful. it's like a saab, maybe. yr not gonna get laid for using it but it keeps giving up tricks that you can't believe are there.

(actually since this is dance music, you just might get laid).

problems w/ ultrabeat-- shit is WAY too loud in the existing kits. turn everything down, and turn your monitors up. i usually group things into auxes w/ a multiple--out instnace of UB; kicks, snares, metals, etc. eq the groups so that they sound nice and full and then send all those groups to a master drum bus.

compressor on VCA, maybe 6:1 or so, play around with the other settings, set distortion to "soft" and dial in maybe 50% or so of the compressor. instant parallel comp. toss a limiter on afterwards and see what phatness you've got.

awesome!!!

I feel also feel like you've typed this somewhere else before and I read it but didn't follow thru with the advice

maybe?

thank you

fiziks · Post by **fiziks** » Fri Aug 21, 2009 2:51 pm

Schema wrote:EXS24 carrier signal for sub everytime

No doubt. Everytime.

mondays child · Post by **mondays child** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:52 pm

I really only use the EXS24 in logic. Only because I use loads of samples including the drums.
I also program the thing as well.
Don't really use many synths at all, just more comfortable this way.

the audio tools used are plugs by

Audio Damage
Destroy FX
TAL
Flux
Lowcoders and Bitplant
SSL
Stillwell Audio
Prosoniq
Schwa

And I use an expanded SSL Duende with 64 channel upgrade, Bus Compressor, X Comp, Drumstrip, X EQ, and Channel strip.

gabbo · Post by **gabbo** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:29 pm

I find i mainly use my NI plugins (massive, kontact, guitar rig ect)

Never really got into the logic sampler or ultrabeat as i prefer to arrange drums straight onto the sequencer.

Love the reverbs though

However, one thing that seems to always let me down is the autofilter anyone else have a problem with it or can suggest a better one?

vadarfone · Post by **vadarfone** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:58 pm

I used to love ES1 back when Logic was on Windows. Totally excellent synth, and as someone already said, you can make some superb bass sounds with it. I remember making loads and loads of patches for it back in the day. Wish I could get it as a standalone now.

vertex · Post by **vertex** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:07 pm

^ I'd love to ba able to use the Logic plug-ins with something like Reaper... Shame they're logic only!

Anyone still using Logic Platinum v5.51? Seems crazy using something 6 years old but it works real well IMO...

86. · Post by **86.** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:18 pm

Vertex wrote:^ I'd love to ba able to use the Logic plug-ins with something like Reaper... Shame they're logic only!

Anyone still using Logic Platinum v5.51? Seems crazy using something 6 years old but it works real well IMO...

that's the thing, Logic plug-ins, even with that version, are on a next level.

I think I have it still.....it was buggy as hell for me. I might have deleted it but kept some of the project folders....god knows why

vertex · Post by **vertex** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:31 pm

86 Position wrote:
Vertex wrote:^ I'd love to ba able to use the Logic plug-ins with something like Reaper... Shame they're logic only!

Anyone still using Logic Platinum v5.51? Seems crazy using something 6 years old but it works real well IMO...
that's the thing, Logic plug-ins, even with that version, are on a next level.

I think I have it still.....it was buggy as hell for me. I might have deleted it but kept some of the project folders....god knows why

Yep the Plat plug-ins sounds so good, plus I've made loads of my own presets now so I don't really want to move DAW's.

Well, I did ask over at the reaper forums, and it's possible to use something called rearoute to get the sound from logic into reaper... And I also use rewire from reason into Logic 5.51.

Sounds complex, but I'm gonna give it a go... But I have a feeling it would be easier to keep it simple... I use reason most of the time just for getting down ideas....

adam_misst · Post by **adam_misst** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:07 pm

I use Reason 4 rewired into Logic 9 and I find it works a treat, as I still love to use Thor/Malstrom/Subtractor in Reason, anyone else doing this too?

I'm a big fan of Massive in Logic and also use Absynth 4 and FM8, would be interesting to see if anyone is working along the same lines?

LURQ · Post by **LURQ** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:36 am

Any tips on using a good reverb in logic to create a good in your face snare with some tail?

I'm not feeling most of the reverbs in logic, maybe someone can shime in.

nonseq · Post by **nonseq** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:00 pm

Jolly Wailer wrote:I use ultrabeat and totally love it, find myself using the stock kits quite a bit - my only complaint would be that I seem to get alot of "digital-ish" high end noise from ultrabeat .. like a faint digital crush that isn't so easy on the ears .. anyone else experience this with ultrabeat?

Yeah I used an ultrabeat clap sample recently and I got the same impression. Think it was the sample itself not Ultrabeat.

jolly wailer · Post by **jolly wailer** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:23 pm

Lurq wrote:Any tips on using a good reverb in logic to create a good in your face snare with some tail?

I'm not feeling most of the reverbs in logic, maybe someone can shime in.

enverb can give u some gnarly snare drum tails

<ding> · Post by **<ding>** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 1:09 pm

Decree wrote:
green plan wrote:Bit annoying being an apple user cause heaps of VSTs are PC only.
not anymore...
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/a ... ation.html

my generally used AU list:
albino, predator, psp, voxengo, ozone 4, circle

yo this looks cool man bin lokng for somthing like this for time

one guestion though its meant to enable to you download pc vsts and shizzle
but they all come as .exe files so can download them but cant install any ways to get round this ????

could a programme like parallel desktop work?

Sharmaji · Post by **Sharmaji** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:18 pm

Lurq wrote:Any tips on using a good reverb in logic to create a good in your face snare with some tail?

I'm not feeling most of the reverbs in logic, maybe someone can shime in.

space designer is one of the best reverb plugs on the market; you could charge the price of the full logic alone and it'd still be a bargain.

try one of the short rooms or halls. barring that, averb is great for short, sparkly reverberation.

enverb is REALLY weird and a bit of a resource hog but excellent for sound design.

d-code · Post by **d-code** » Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:33 am

Reaktor all day long...

dj$ree · Post by **dj$ree** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:22 am

vertex wrote:^ Anyone still using Logic Platinum v5.51? Seems crazy using something 6 years old but it works real well IMO...

I still work with logic audio platinium 4 (since 1996).

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