Mephedrone.

did · Post by **did** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:39 am

yes or no? i fucking love the stuff (not a regular user though mind) but am started to become a bit prang. any thoughts?

karmacazee · Post by **karmacazee** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:45 am

That's a new one to me.

For a bit I though you were on about that stuff they use to ween smackheads off' of the brown.

.onelove. · Post by **.onelove.** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:50 am

love it, but i dont like how its gained popularity in the last two months. Literally everyone knows about it now so its only a matter of time until its banned.

PERHAPS MAKING A THREAD ON IT IN A BIG PUBLIC FORUM ISNT THE BEST IDEA

magma · Post by **magma** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:00 pm

Tried it once. Seemed ok, but given the choice it'd be MDMA every time. Too many people will settle for second best for a little bit less hassle... and frankly, I'm not sure I'd feel much safer with a gram of this in my pocket than MDMA... you're still going to get kicked out of a club if a bouncer sees you and you're still getting a night in the cells (or as long as it takes them to test - possibly pretty thorough testing to tell this apart from real Mandy) if a police officer sees you.

.onelove. · Post by **.onelove.** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:04 pm

It will get banned. You think the Government will allow a Class A substitute on the streets that probably about half of young people know about? It just missed the radar in time for the JWH and GBL bans, but theres no chance of it lasting more than 3 more months I think. Suppliers are already getting done, just through different laws, such as supplying harmful chemicals.

I don't find it addictive either, I'll find I have to stop myself 'topping up' as when you suddenly sober, but I have no cravings in the week or anything.

ohmydays · Post by **ohmydays** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:04 pm

It's still illegal to buy them without a research facility and for the intent of consumption.

The Beta-ketones (the collection of chemis it falls under) have missed this legislation in a month or so (spice etc. and synthetic cannaboids will be banned)

The thing that pisses me off is the government will use it as an excuse to ban all sorts of herbs and superfoods that are natural and even good for the body, instead people will have to resort to the extracts

coca leaves (superfood and good subtle effect) will be replaced by cocaine
poppy pods will be replaced by opium or heroin

etc. etc. those who are responsible will be forced into the position of taking the more dangerous extracted cousins. Fucking prohibition.

I would say it is not worth taking unresearched chemicals for a relatively average high, when things like MDMA can almost be classed safe and are less 'hollow' then its unresearched speedier cousins.

O also it is probably one of the most addictive substances around, so be careful!

.onelove. · Post by **.onelove.** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:06 pm

Magma wrote:Tried it once. Seemed ok, but given the choice it'd be MDMA every time. Too many people will settle for second best for a little bit less hassle... and frankly, I'm not sure I'd feel much safer with a gram of this in my pocket than MDMA... you're still going to get kicked out of a club if a bouncer sees you and you're still getting a night in the cells (or as long as it takes them to test - possibly pretty thorough testing to tell this apart from real Mandy) if a police officer sees you.

True, but, it's ridiculously a lot cheaper and you know it's 99.9% pure. If you've can get uncut MDMA thats great, but most people can't to be fair. Quality of pills in this country are a joke by large.

firky · Post by **firky** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:18 pm

Go to Urban75, find a thread in the drugs forum entitled the same as this one. Read through it all - all the people posting to it who are addicted to it and their lives are being ruined, all the people who can keep a lid on it and love the stuff on a weekend, and a couple of people who ended up really messed up by it. I know I started a thread on JWH but that's with hesitation... and as I said on that thread, at least with illegal drugs you know what you're getting and should shit go wrong, the docs know what to do. With this new stuff, pfft... it's not an exaggeration to say that illegal drugs are perhaps safer.

Do what you want kids but play safe and wear a condom!

.onelove. · Post by **.onelove.** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:22 pm

Firky wrote:at least with illegal drugs you know what you're getting

Not true though, especially in pills you never know what you're getting because none are 100% pure. This is whats ridiculous about prohibition, the most harmful aspect of taking pills is all the shite that its cut with, rat poison and all sorts.

firky · Post by **firky** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:29 pm

.OneLove. wrote:
Firky wrote:at least with illegal drugs you know what you're getting
Not true though, especially in pills you never know what you're getting because none are 100% pure. This is whats ridiculous about prohibition, the most harmful aspect of taking pills is all the shite that its cut with, rat poison and all sorts.

Badly phrased, sorry. I mean, you know what to expect (usually). I don't do cowies anymore, fucking horrible things.

.onelove. · Post by **.onelove.** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:36 pm

I see were you're coming from, it is largely an unknown chemical so you have to accept the risks when you take it. But that doesn't stop idiots chugging almost a gram at a time thinking its fine because its 'legal'. Mephs been around since about 05 I think, Ive known since late 07, only since summer has it snowballed into a popular well known drug. Theres actually a reported death from it today in the SUN of all papers, nevermind the lad was depressed/suicidal anyway, so it really is only a matter of time until its banned now.

Which is fucking shame since ive been taking sensibly it for time with no problems or addictions whatsoever, and now ill have to suffer because morons dont bother looking up what theyre taking and how much to take.

miscreant · Post by **miscreant** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:30 pm

Yeah man it was a good laugh. Had some fucking nutty dreams for a few days after mind but in general seems like a relatively good substitute for mandy especially when most stuff coming out recently has been shite and you hardly ever get any proper crystalized stuff anymore.

I certainly wouldnt take it every weekend but my mate got 5 g's for notting hill carnival and it certainly did the trick for us!

Everythings addictive if you cane it just dont do it all the time and you'll be fine. I smoked crack at a festival by accident once and it was the best fucking accident i've ever had - I'm not a crackhead and yeah I wanted to take it again but you just tell yourself no and move on.

bandshell · Post by **bandshell** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:38 pm

No for me.

james fox · Post by **james fox** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:56 pm

MiscreanT wrote:I smoked crack at a festival by accident once and it was the best fucking accident i've ever had

how do you smoke crack by accident?!

BLZDub · Post by **BLZDub** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:58 pm

bandshell wrote:No for me.

T_macabre · Post by **T_macabre** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:01 pm

avoided it, not interested in trying it...

now if they would allow the import/export of Saffrol again, within a few weeks we'd all get some nice Mandy and not have to worry about trying all these chemicals that haven't been researched properly...

bandshell · Post by **bandshell** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:06 pm

james fox wrote:
MiscreanT wrote:I smoked crack at a festival by accident once and it was the best fucking accident i've ever had
how do you smoke crack by accident?!

Someone tells you it's something other than crack.

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