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Re: king tubby style delays?

Post by amplex » Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:29 am

i love delays. so many of them sound so different. even a crap digital delay can add so much to a sound when used rhythmically.

for software: i have been using ohmboyz for years and love it. almost every param is LFOable, from 1/64th - 512 beats etc, really cool what u can do with it sometimes. over the last year ive been using bionicdelay a lot more, excellent sounding one there too. also analogic delay is a good one that simulates the tape delay in logic (similar to bionicdelay). i have seen ratshack reverb (copy of realistic reverb analog bbd delay, see below) and heard that one is pretty cool too, although ive only seen it for mac so havent tried it.. Augustus Loop is badass but more like tape looping type of plug than a simple delay. uber configurable though, this this can make insane noise. there are tons of others i cant think of right now, its all a matter of choice and opinion.

hardware: realistic reverb (actually a bbd delay from radioshack early 80s) is an awesome, circuitbendable (badass feedback/tonal mods, etc) delay that soudns great. the only thing is its relatively short compared to some (maxes out like 250-300 ms or so without mods) but i love mine. ive modded a couple and they are insane sounding; they end up becoming a sound generator as well as an effect with the feedback mods. also they make a great distortion by overdriving the 1/4" input. ibanez AD9 is a great analog delay pedal for guitar, really cool for noise too, have had a lotta fun with that one. also a moog delay my friend has, is an insanely cool delay, forget the model, but its high on my list of wanted hardware. my buddy has a real original echoplex from the 60s. this thing is one of the best sounding analog tape delays ive ever heard. it does wonders to anything, so crisp and nice! its a real tape delay where u can physically move the tape head on a short looped magnetic strip to get a 'real' delay. and it also has some kind of filter setup i believe, don't remember much about it honestly but its badass sounding and some of the greatest dub artists have used it. roland space echo is another one of the same that i would love to get a hardware copy of. i believe that someone is manufacturing a hardware copy of the original, or was recently. also there are a couple vst emulators of it too, but u will never match the sound of the real thing =]

king tubby was really inspiring my electronic stuff around 2000-2002 when i really started playing with delays a lot more on every element of my music, routing things differently, distorting and filtering the clean delays, etc. a lot of cool glitch has been made with interesting delay settings on stabby noise material =] have phun with it, dub it out and invent a new beat-style with old techniques :mrgreen:

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Re: king tubby style delays?

Post by deadly_habit » Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:39 am

http://www.audiodamage.com/effects/prod ... ?pid=AD006
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Re: king tubby style delays?

Post by 86. » Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:12 am

whats everyone's thoughts on tal dub & tal dub 2?

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Re: king tubby style delays?

Post by nowaysj » Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:29 am

amplex wrote:dub it out and invent a new beat-style with old techniques
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Re: king tubby style delays?

Post by gravity » Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:52 pm

nowaysj wrote:Never heard a convolution spring verb, how do they sound. Seems like something convolution couldn't do, the spring being so extraordinarily organic.
theres a few nice ones in altiverb.

thats actually all i know of tbh.

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Re: king tubby style delays?

Post by yellowhighlighter » Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:54 am

deadly habit wrote:boss re-20 8)
i have that pedal. although i haven't pulled it out in a while. i think it might be under my bed actually.

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Re: king tubby style delays?

Post by wormcode » Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:28 am

86. wrote:whats everyone's thoughts on tal dub & tal dub 2?
All the Togu stuff is great

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Re: king tubby style delays?

Post by yellowhighlighter » Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:50 am

yeah i like the simplicity of tal elec7ro.

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Re: king tubby style delays?

Post by Sharmaji » Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:57 pm

nowaysj wrote:Never heard a convolution spring verb, how do they sound. Seems like something convolution couldn't do, the spring being so extraordinarily organic.
there's a few spring options in logic's space designer... not particularly nuts about them, they do sound oddly sampled and consistent. springs respond really differently to voltage (volume) increases, and you miss that in the samples from what i've heard.
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Re: king tubby style delays?

Post by moznz » Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:50 pm

Depone wrote:King dubby delay emulates exactly what your saying! - http://www.lowcoders.fr/
massive thanks for this one - will try in the studio later today
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Re: king tubby style delays?

Post by moznz » Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:53 pm

Sharmaji wrote:
nowaysj wrote:Never heard a convolution spring verb, how do they sound. Seems like something convolution couldn't do, the spring being so extraordinarily organic.
there's a few spring options in logic's space designer... not particularly nuts about them, they do sound oddly sampled and consistent. springs respond really differently to voltage (volume) increases, and you miss that in the samples from what i've heard.
I totally agree - you can pick up a dual spring cheap as - have a look for Accutronics and you'll be set
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Re: king tubby style delays?

Post by slothrop » Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:24 am

alphacat wrote:...and while there are plugins that are supposed to emulate the sound of a Space Echo, none of them really come close because it has its own sound properties (like saturation & analog hiss) that IMHO just can't be modelled accurately yet.
That's probably true, but IMHO, the saturation and analog is a fairly small part of 'the magic'. I think the real magic of the hardware thing is that a) it doesn't tempo sync, so it naturally sounds woozy and spaced out and b) someone (ideally King Tubby) can ride the controls - particularly the feedback - in real time and play it like an instrument. So I guess the first thing I'd do would be to get a basic emulation, like the Arcdev DubBox ir the Togu one someone mentioned, and hook it up to a controller to drop it in and out of the mix, play with the feedback, play with the filtering etc...

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Re: king tubby style delays?

Post by moznz » Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:32 pm

slothrop wrote:
alphacat wrote:...and while there are plugins that are supposed to emulate the sound of a Space Echo, none of them really come close because it has its own sound properties (like saturation & analog hiss) that IMHO just can't be modelled accurately yet.
That's probably true, but IMHO, the saturation and analog is a fairly small part of 'the magic'. I think the real magic of the hardware thing is that a) it doesn't tempo sync, so it naturally sounds woozy and spaced out and b) someone (ideally King Tubby) can ride the controls - particularly the feedback - in real time and play it like an instrument. So I guess the first thing I'd do would be to get a basic emulation, like the Arcdev DubBox ir the Togu one someone mentioned, and hook it up to a controller to drop it in and out of the mix, play with the feedback, play with the filtering etc...
absolutely - riding the controls is essential - would love a space echo one day..
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Re: king tubby style delays?

Post by Y_H » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:51 pm

http://www.gregjazz.com/index.php?page=resources
Cinematic reverb gives some nice reverb/delay sounds, but it eats CPU.
But its free though.

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Re: king tubby style delays?

Post by rbnc » Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:11 pm

Depone wrote:King dubby delay emulates exactly what your saying! - http://www.lowcoders.fr/
And it's free. Awesome. Thank you!
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Re: king tubby style delays?

Post by serox » Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:24 pm

Depone wrote:King dubby delay emulates exactly what your saying! - http://www.lowcoders.fr/
Is this mac only?!
Don’t worry about people stealing an idea. If it’s original, you will have to ram it down their throats.

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Re: king tubby style delays?

Post by wormcode » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:57 pm

serox wrote:
Depone wrote:King dubby delay emulates exactly what your saying! - http://www.lowcoders.fr/
Is this mac only?!
Yes for now

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