Will dubstep split into new genres?

[seckle]

if 50 painters painted like picasso, you wouldn't even know what you were looking at any longer. it would become a blur. i'm not saying that everyone's got to sound unique, because thats just silly. i'm just saying that if you don't support musical progression, i don't understand how you could love and be into this sound. it's like bringing sand to the beach.

[chainsawclownstyle]

this sound.

Includes brostep. It's their take on this sound. Just like Skream and Benga gave us their take on garage. Artful Dodger might not have liked it. See where I'm going here? At a certain point we called it something else. You are free to think what you want about something else, or even individual tracks within the same genre.

What does THIS SOUND sound like? Apparently all the same if people who do something you don't like are excluded.

If you can call it THIS SOUND, there is obviously a THAT SOUND. So yes, it has split. And if you can call it THIS SOUND, it's obviously not that varied because you can throw a blanket over it so easily and put it on a shelf.

50 takes on Picasso would reveal 50 different types of brush strokes in the same style. It might be THIS SOUND, but it's not the SAME SOUND.

[seckle]

OK rather than the whinging about "X is ruining the scene" or "Y isn't dubstep", can we have a bit of constructive, speculative thinking?

Music evolves - that's what it does. Dubstep was always a fusion of elements anyway - garage, dub, underground techno, dancehall, D&B, whatever - and it keeps on crossbreeding with those and other sounds. So it's no wonder it keeps coming up with new variations whether it's hee-haw midrange donkeystep or woodblock tropical wompwomp house...

So: what are your predictions about where particular sides of the scene will go in future? And who will be the next artists to use dubstep techniques?

[deamonds]

well that was a rather healthier debate, but yea, whatever, lets get back on track.

Ramadanman b/w Oneman

That set on Rinse.fm a month or so back, some of the stuff that ramadanman started off with was excellent. Right up my alley.

[drokkr]

To simplify things, music is something different for everyone. Some people like music to be a certain speed or delivered in a certain way.

We are lucky to be aware of and watching Dubstep as it evolves/changes/mutates, whatever why you want to put it. Like the the things you like but don't dismiss something because you don't. Everything has it's place, even Brostep.

[chainsawclownstyle]

I read the question and have answered it 5 times in response to your repeated attempts to discredit what I have said.

YOU yourself have identified a movement within this scene that you do not like, that all sounds the same to your ears. It's not what you like, it has a discernibly different vibe than you prefer. True or false man?

It HAS split. <---- read: this is the answer to the question for those who obviously either cannot read, or selectively skip over the point.

Much in the same way that this is not GARAGEFORUM.COM, soon these sub genre's will either become their own genre's entirely, or they won't. But it has split. As for who will attempt to exploit it for a profit next, I imagine it'll be Metalheadz next. Ram did a fairly good job of exploiting it with Chase and Status.

I've also said where it will go in the future, which is full circle. Right now we're calling Garage and House "FUNKY"

Did you miss that the first 5 times? IT'S CALLED FUNKY NOW.

Who is making Dubstep in the sense of 2005 anymore? Nobody. There is your answer. It has split, mutated, and inbred. It's completely different now than it was in 2005. That's not a bad thing. Where is it going? Where it's already been. People will take the same style and use their own strokes, like I have said 5 fucking times. Try quoting me next time you want me to repeat the same answer over again. I can read. I read the question. I responded. Several times. I answered every question in every single response. American education FTW, it's workin real well.

Nobody cleared the floor at Dubwar when Mala, a Dubstep artist, dropped Spongebob for the 5th time, did they? Is that Dubstep?

[janner]

This is possibly the first truly interesting question on this forum for quite a while and it is a question about what particular thing would you like to see emerge out of dubstep if you had your way, assuming you have an opinion in this regard

you are being asked to use your imagination

my personal preference: i hope we see a trend towards more colourful, multi-layered, dense and emotive pieces of music. maybe a drop in tempo. almost a backlash against the sort of trends seckle has been critisising

i think that this has already been heralded by the likes of autonomic at one end of the spectrum and the purple crew at the other; you can almost track it in the development of hyperdub

that’s the kind of progression i would like to see anyway

[dubmanc]

This is possibly the first truly interesting question on this forum for quite a while and it is a question about what particular thing would you like to see emerge out of dubstep if you had your way, assuming you have an opinion in this regard

you are being asked to use your imagination

my personal preference: i hope we see a trend towards more colourful, multi-layered, dense and emotive pieces of music. maybe a drop in tempo. almost a backlash against the sort of trends seckle has been critisising

i think that this has already been heralded by the likes of autonomic at one end of the spectrum and the purple crew at the other; you can almost track it in the development of hyperdub

that’s the kind of progression i would like to see anyway

fucking right mate

[alien pimp]

as the genres mix and combine in different ways we're moving into one world one genre

until the perfect track is written.
and the track is probably silence

[lynn mc]

2 sorts of dubstep allready, workingclass dubstep and middleclass dubstep.

[deamonds]

2 sorts of dubstep allready, workingclass dubstep and middleclass dubstep.

what do u mean by this?

[lynn mc]

2 sorts of dubstep allready, workingclass dubstep and middleclass dubstep.

what do u mean by this?

sorry i forgot the i was kidding.

apparently there will be a speed-garage revival in 2011 though

[tobo]

As per usual, Blackdown aka Martin Clark says it best.

Blackdown: On the Origin of Scenes
Figure 1: Status quo
The musical scene is large and well established


Figure 2: Outbreak
Frustrated with the status quo, musicians migrate from the core
this could be any established genre



Figure 3: Shared values
Some of the musicians find common ground and create a new camp
this is the "what do u call it" moment, where the rate of change and posibilities are the greatest


Figure 4 & 5: Growth and influx
The new scene attracts an influx and grows
this is funky right now, dubstep three years ago, grime five years ago


Figure 6: Becoming the status quo
The scene becomes the status quo
And frankly, who wants to be Status Quo... only joking.

[86.]

is it a London thing still? nope. just like hip-hop aint a NY thing.

[phrex]

in future, asia will be giving us some fresh sounds. japan started, china (!!) and others will follow.













maybe.






maybe israel will drop bombs on iran, korea will throw some biochemical bombs on USA and the USA will answer with nuclear bombs.

the world fuckes up and noone will ever know that dubstep existed 'cause mankind and vinyl will melt down.

[sigbowls]

its going to be a space thing

[thephonies]

Dubstep is unifying in its diversity. Fuck sub genres. It won't happen

[djfoster]

I was not in the original uk scene when dubstep was born, I have a different dubstep scene from the most of people out here but I been djing for 4 years and I think its all very clean.
We already have different labels signing different tunes from differents artists
We already have different parties
We already have Deep/Wonk/Ragga
We already love to say "its all about sub"

So now, dubstep is all at 140bpm as a lots of people say but already splitted for me.

[Luke Yeah?]

I for one hope that it does not. A big part of the fun/excitement that I felt when I was discovering the genre was the fact that there was so much diversity in it. My first concious exposure to the genre as such was Burial and then through to the likes of Skream, Benga, Kode9, Digital Mystikz etc. I have the feeling that if it was split into seperate sub genres, someone coming into the scene say through the 'mid range' sound would only be exposed to that sound for the simple reason that they would have no need to explore dubstep as it is now in order to find it. Thus removing the element of discovery in the sense of how I discovered the likes of Skream and Benga after listening to Burial and then coming onto this forum.

again, this isnt what this thread is about.

Right then, second attempt.

After trying to grasp an understanding as to what this thread is about, I have come to the conclusion that it’s a discussion as to the next sound after dubstep? Correct me if I’m wrong.

I for one cannot see a genre that has created the impact that dubstep has coming through for a while, for the simple fact that dubstep was so sparse in its defining there are still endless possibilities in terms of what to lay over the sub bass, 140’ish bpm skeleton, the later part of which (the tempo) is and has, already been experimented with by many producers.

My personal preference: I would love to see a push in the sound that has been pioneered by the likes of Joker and the other producers that come under the whole purple sound movement. I feel that this colourful, emotive sound has vast room for experimentation and expansion and I would love to see it progress into something of its own.

Hope this answer is kind of what the question is asking and of course these are all my own views and interpretations on where the genre is currently at so my response might not make sense to all.

[♫♪♫]

I've never heard of this "dubstep". What are you lot on about?