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Burials Pops...

Post by basicanarchy101 » Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:22 am

So, think Endorphin, Im trying to figure out how to achieve a similar sound to the pops and vinylly feeling noises that replace what would otherwise be drums...

My initial thought was to just make a reverby airy sweep pattern n put it through a vinyl simulator, but tis not quite on, is there something Im missing here?

N hell, if were on the subject...

What are you minimal tech people doing to make your drums sound so damn crunchy-poppy-clicky-set-the-horns-off-in-the-club snappy? Once again, I see Burial do this, as well as alot of more deep dub artists... I cant really explain it, but think miniimal tech wooden blocky type samples...

Im trying to learn to write more deep end tracks, distortion gives me a headache after a few hours... :u:

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Post by tripwire22 » Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:25 am

maybe he sidechained a weak drum hit to the vinyl hissing?

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Post by dignan » Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:04 am

he might just be high passing the shit out of his drums, mess around with EQ and bitcrushing too...

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Post by collige » Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:43 am

dignan wrote:he might just be high passing the shit out of his drums, mess around with EQ and bitcrushing too...
Band pass would probably sound better than high pass.
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Post by contakt321 » Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:17 am

Could it just be as simple as a crackly intro or outro of a vinyl record? May not have to be studio trickery - could just be what it sounds like, crackly vinyl.

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Post by tavravlavish » Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:26 am

cant be that hard to make or sample a poppy vinyl noise, its not like just cause burial had a crackle on his song he did some amazing shit to get that sound. im bein a biotch sorry.

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Post by kejk » Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:38 am

tavravlavish wrote:cant be that hard to make or sample a poppy vinyl noise, its not like just cause burial had a crackle on his song he did some amazing shit to get that sound. im bein a biotch sorry.
Just what I thought as well...
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Post by cloak and dagger » Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:29 am

basicanarchy101 wrote:
What are you minimal tech people doing to make your drums sound so damn crunchy-poppy-clicky-set-the-horns-off-in-the-club snappy? Once again, I see Burial do this, as well as alot of more deep dub artists... I cant really explain it, but think miniimal tech wooden blocky type samples...

Interesting, I tend to have the opposite problem, in that my drums are TOO snappy...I always have to compress and roll off the highs nowadays for some reason.

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Post by deadly_habit » Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:32 am

wow you guys really over analyze the minimal sound
9 times out of 10 it's just what it sounds like it is not long involved techniques or processing

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Post by JFK » Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:42 am

deadly habit wrote:wow you guys really over analyze the minimal sound
9 times out of 10 it's just what it sounds like it is not long involved techniques or processing
Agree 100% Big up Deadly.

Dont over think it. Burial produces using soundforge, layering tracks over one another. His tools and approach are VERY basic. There is no sidechaining, no shit hot eqing, no fancy compression.

Its all about using the right samples in the right context. Have an idea of what you want your drums/percs/cymbals to sound like and DONT quit untill you find a sample that matches the sound in your head.

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Post by basicanarchy101 » Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:20 am

Its all about using the right samples in the right context. Have an idea of what you want your drums/percs/cymbals to sound like and DONT quit untill you find a sample that matches the sound in your head.
I get this completely.

But.

I dont have a two minute long severely popping vinyl with nothing else whatsoever included sample like Burial does... so... either someone suggest where too find about 2 minutes worth of heavily crackling blank vinyl already sampled, seeing as I have no turns... or help me figure out how to generate it.

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Post by wormcode » Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:22 am

basicanarchy101 wrote:
Its all about using the right samples in the right context. Have an idea of what you want your drums/percs/cymbals to sound like and DONT quit untill you find a sample that matches the sound in your head.
I get this completely.

But.

I dont have a two minute long severely popping vinyl with nothing else whatsoever included sample like Burial does... so... either someone suggest where too find about 2 minutes worth of heavily crackling blank vinyl already sampled, seeing as I have no turns... or help me figure out how to generate it.
There's some on freesound.org, and all over google via other sites.

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Post by nighttripper » Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:29 am

There's a good album called "The Wit And Wisdom Of Ronald Reagan" that came out in the 80s. It features - you guessed it - absolutely no sound at all and is good for vinyl sampling. There was a follow-up called "The Wit And Wisdom Of Margaret Thatcher". :lol:
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Post by JFK » Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:33 am

basicanarchy101 wrote:
Its all about using the right samples in the right context. Have an idea of what you want your drums/percs/cymbals to sound like and DONT quit untill you find a sample that matches the sound in your head.
I get this completely.

But.

I dont have a two minute long severely popping vinyl with nothing else whatsoever included sample like Burial does... so... either someone suggest where too find about 2 minutes worth of heavily crackling blank vinyl already sampled, seeing as I have no turns... or help me figure out how to generate it.
If you get really desperate mate and cant find anything on google. Pm me and I'll email you some of my vinyl samples.

I have 50 odd so there should be something you like in there :)

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Post by serox » Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:04 am

deadly habit wrote:wow you guys really over analyze the minimal sound
9 times out of 10 it's just what it sounds like it is not long involved techniques or processing
This.

Most of the sounds ppl are trying to replicate from Burials tracks are things that were not planned by himself even. I would suggest you stop trying to mimic someone’s atmosphere tricks and create your own:)

The sound of a record crackling is just a sample you can get from any record. His drums are samples too and prob come from records with heavy compression/eq’ing etc. All standard processing for drums.

Trying to replicate someone’s ‘feel and vibe’ is not an easy task.
Don’t worry about people stealing an idea. If it’s original, you will have to ram it down their throats.

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Post by serox » Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:06 am

basicanarchy101 wrote:
I get this completely.

But.

I dont have a two minute long severely popping vinyl with nothing else whatsoever included sample like Burial does... so... either someone suggest where too find about 2 minutes worth of heavily crackling blank vinyl already sampled, seeing as I have no turns... or help me figure out how to generate it.
man there are like over a million websites that have 'crackle' samples free to download!

Why would you need 2 mins anyway? 6 secs looped in places is all you need. Change the filter type to change it up or whatever.
Don’t worry about people stealing an idea. If it’s original, you will have to ram it down their throats.

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Re: Burials Pops...

Post by naus » Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:17 pm

The long lost art of vinyl sampling.

Its not big, its not clever, but it works a treat!

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Re: Burials Pops...

Post by zion cluster » Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:01 pm

serox wrote:
basicanarchy101 wrote:
I get this completely.

But.

I dont have a two minute long severely popping vinyl with nothing else whatsoever included sample like Burial does... so... either someone suggest where too find about 2 minutes worth of heavily crackling blank vinyl already sampled, seeing as I have no turns... or help me figure out how to generate it.
man there are like over a million websites that have 'crackle' samples free to download!

Why would you need 2 mins anyway? 6 secs looped in places is all you need. Change the filter type to change it up or whatever.
THIS

Looping a crackle underneath a repeating part adds instant 'sampled from old vinyl' atmosphere. You can do this with modulated white noise too, to make vst synths sound like they were recorded craply. Ferox, Wow n Flutter, and Isotope vinyl FTW.
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Re: Burials Pops...

Post by Blue Patterns » Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:05 pm

who uses Ableton in this thread? all you gotta do is open an instance of vinyl distortion...tweak paramaters and resample. tweak, etc etc etc

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Re: Burials Pops...

Post by ketamine » Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:34 pm

deadly habit wrote:wow you guys really over analyze the minimal sound
9 times out of 10 it's just what it sounds like it is not long involved techniques or processing

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