DJ Friendly?

[narcissus]

who cares if it's DJ friendly, as long as it's dance floor friendly, they will play it (as others have said)

personally, i wouldn't mind mixing a really long ambient intro with no beat after a couple of intensely rhythmic tracks... it's nice to just float sometimes, then when the rhtyhm comes back in 2 minutes later, the beat might not be in the same exact place, but at that point it doesn't really matter.

[-dubson-]

Make tunes how you want, if you really want to get plays off DJ's so much. Get a distorted chainsaw wobble, a standard halfstep beat and a some samples of people swearing.

Just make music and dont worry i say.

[Blue Patterns]

some samples of people swearing.

[kontrol]

try mixing filth by skream when your pissed, that tune AINT dj friendly

[contakt321]

Make tunes how you want, if you really want to get plays off DJ's so much. Get a distorted chainsaw wobble, a standard halfstep beat and a some samples of people swearing.

HAHAHAHA

[quit]

Alright lovely, thanks for the help fella's

[serox]

i dunno its pretty fucking hard to beatmatch to ambience and pads and shit. you at least need something to keep time with, unless you wanna crossfade in breakdowns.

Normally if a track has just ambiance without any kind of melody or anything then you can just throw it in from the first point and if the tune has been made right you can get the drums to come in at the right point.

There are not many records tho like the above so its rare. In Dubstep they always have some perc or even just a melody that could be just a couple of pads looped.

[serox]

it helps if there are some markers in the intro of the tune so the dj knows what they are mixing in is on beat.

if there is some long ambient pads for an intro and nothing for the dj to track the incoming tune with, I wouldn't call the tune dj friendly

FYI: I cannot listen to the tune in your sig because I am at work

Thats is not 'not dj friendly' at all.

A pad is just a pad and that has nothing to do with the structure of the track. If you really cannot cue a track up without a beat then you just need to skip to the groove on the track, match the shit up and them throw it in from the start.

[serox]

try mixing filth by skream when your pissed, that tune AINT dj friendly

are you serious? Skreams tracks are the easiest to mix and I will tell you why.


They are near enough all the exact same tempo.
They all have a kick drum that is hard quantized like 99% of all of his drums.
His tunes are basic (but good)

I cannot think of a single Dubstep record that is in anyway hard to mix. Have you tried mixing Chicago House from around 89 to 92? what about Electro or Hip Hop from America pre 92? Everyone was making music using hardware and loads of music was out of time and made quite badly when it comes to productions compared to how things are made on a computer now days. To make things even harder a lot of those records were reel to reel cut and paste jobs so every 16/32 bars the track may go out of time.

[AntlionUK]

I cannot think of a single Dubstep record that is in anyway hard to mix.

chainsaw calligraphy is difficult

[-dubson-]

I cannot think of a single Dubstep record that is in anyway hard to mix.

I agree with you alot of dubstep djs don't know there born, but thats not true.

[serox]

I cannot think of a single Dubstep record that is in anyway hard to mix.

I agree with you alot of dubstep djs don't know there born, but thats not true.

I am open to hear some tracks mate

[mistayif]

i hate sick tunes that have really hard to mix intros ie. nothing in the intro to let you know if you're in time, or just drums that come in at wierd times and have an odd pattern you can only feel the groove to after a couple bars. one recent tune which comes to mind is vivek - kulture, absolutely sick but the intro is impossible to mix that i have to cue it from the first drop

[abZ]

try mixing filth by skream when your pissed, that tune AINT dj friendly

are you serious? Skreams tracks are the easiest to mix and I will tell you why.


They are near enough all the exact same tempo.
They all have a kick drum that is hard quantized like 99% of all of his drums.
His tunes are basic (but good)

I cannot think of a single Dubstep record that is in anyway hard to mix. Have you tried mixing Chicago House from around 89 to 92? what about Electro or Hip Hop from America pre 92? Everyone was making music using hardware and loads of music was out of time and made quite badly when it comes to productions compared to how things are made on a computer now days. To make things even harder a lot of those records were reel to reel cut and paste jobs so every 16/32 bars the track may go out of time.

IDK Skreams tunes are dj friendly if you mix like Skream! If you notice he doesn't do much blending, he just cues it up and then cuts it over when the tune drops. If you like to blend they are good a lot of times because he won't have much percussion in the intro and it is usually 16 measures before the tune drops. By the time you are sure you have it on the bass is kicking in. Which is fine if liek I say, you mix like Skream.

A tune that is freindly to me and the way I mix is this... pretty minimal intro, very little harmonic content. Sounds easy enough but taking those restraints and make it interesting and set up the track is no simple matter. I take that as a challenge as a producer. I also like 32 measure intros rather than 16 because it lets you get more of the two tunes playing off each other. And then it should get minimal somewhere later in the tune so there is less clashing when mixing in another tune. I am not saying every tune should be this way nor do I want them to be this way but when you have some tunes in the bag like this it makes life easier because you can pull one out when you have a tune that might be a problem to mix out of or into etc. Not suggesting these tunes are simply dj tools either, they can do these things and be awesome which is a huge plus and these kind of tunes tend to get played and played and played. Depends on what you want to accomplish as a producer. Ultimately you would like your tune to stand on it's own and not just be a dj tool but me I am a dj been so for 15 years so it is natural for me to want to make dj tunes.

[gravity]

i dunno its pretty fucking hard to beatmatch to ambience and pads and shit. you at least need something to keep time with, unless you wanna crossfade in breakdowns.

Normally if a track has just ambiance without any kind of melody or anything then you can just throw it in from the first point and if the tune has been made right you can get the drums to come in at the right point.

yeah if you've managed to get a few tunes that are the exact same tempo or skip to the beat and beatmatch it pretty well first. theres not always time for that though.

[serox]

IDK Skreams tunes are dj friendly if you mix like Skream! If you notice he doesn't do much blending, he just cues it up and then cuts it over when the tune drops. If you like to blend they are good a lot of times because he won't have much percussion in the intro and it is usually 16 measures before the tune drops. By the time you are sure you have it on the bass is kicking in. Which is fine if liek I say, you mix like Skream.

A tune that is freindly to me and the way I mix is this... pretty minimal intro, very little harmonic content. Sounds easy enough but taking those restraints and make it interesting and set up the track is no simple matter. I take that as a challenge as a producer. I also like 32 measure intros rather than 16 because it lets you get more of the two tunes playing off each other. And then it should get minimal somewhere later in the tune so there is less clashing when mixing in another tune. I am not saying every tune should be this way nor do I want them to be this way but when you have some tunes in the bag like this it makes life easier because you can pull one out when you have a tune that might be a problem to mix out of or into etc. Not suggesting these tunes are simply dj tools either, they can do these things and be awesome which is a huge plus and these kind of tunes tend to get played and played and played. Depends on what you want to accomplish as a producer. Ultimately you would like your tune to stand on it's own and not just be a dj tool but me I am a dj been so for 15 years so it is natural for me to want to make dj tunes.

Skream mixes how he mixes. He mixes like he is drunk and just throws things in, thats his thing. He always has percussion on his intros! Even if it is just a hat every 8 beats! I swear his tunes are simple to mix and if anyone says otherwise I would have to say they have not been mixing long. sorry.

I garentee to you tho his tunes are very easy to mix. They are simple and stay in time no matter what. U can fix the pitch in 2 mins and then go and make a coffee and its still locked.

Fact, Dubstep is easy to mix! I dont just mean throwing beats in n out. I mean full on long tight mixes every time. Only time you may find things tricky is if someone does not have things sequenced, ie Burial.

[serox]

yeah if you've managed to get a few tunes that are the exact same tempo or skip to the beat and beatmatch it pretty well first. theres not always time for that though.

HUH?

Do you know how to mix?!

Dubstep is all nearly the exact same tempo and it takes like 30 secs to cue tunes. Shit I even throw tunes in live without even cuing them.

Skip to the beat? not sure what you mean. Let me explain the process again.

Here is an example. Say I have never heard a record before. I pick it up I go to the first sound on the record to cue it up. There is no perc at all in the intro. I spin the record forward till I find a sound, anything hi hat a crash, anything. I throw the record down on that sound and ride the pitch, job done in 1 minute. Both tracks are now beat matched and I rewind the track and find where the ambiance sound is and throw the record in from that sound at the right point. The intro will be 16 or 32 normally in Dubstep. Becuase I have laid it down in the right spot the first noise or kick will slam in as the tune that is playing, drops 99% of the time. If you are not confident you have done it right you may want to keep your hand on the pitch, up to you.

It does not matter what record it is at all. I go to peoples houses and just go thru records I have never heard cos they are all made the same.

[abZ]

IDK Skreams tunes are dj friendly if you mix like Skream! If you notice he doesn't do much blending, he just cues it up and then cuts it over when the tune drops. If you like to blend they are good a lot of times because he won't have much percussion in the intro and it is usually 16 measures before the tune drops. By the time you are sure you have it on the bass is kicking in. Which is fine if liek I say, you mix like Skream.



A tune that is freindly to me and the way I mix is this... pretty minimal intro, very little harmonic content. Sounds easy enough but taking those restraints and make it interesting and set up the track is no simple matter. I take that as a challenge as a producer. I also like 32 measure intros rather than 16 because it lets you get more of the two tunes playing off each other. And then it should get minimal somewhere later in the tune so there is less clashing when mixing in another tune. I am not saying every tune should be this way nor do I want them to be this way but when you have some tunes in the bag like this it makes life easier because you can pull one out when you have a tune that might be a problem to mix out of or into etc. Not suggesting these tunes are simply dj tools either, they can do these things and be awesome which is a huge plus and these kind of tunes tend to get played and played and played. Depends on what you want to accomplish as a producer. Ultimately you would like your tune to stand on it's own and not just be a dj tool but me I am a dj been so for 15 years so it is natural for me to want to make dj tunes.

Skream mixes how he mixes. He mixes like he is drunk and just throws things in, thats his thing. He always has percussion on his intros! Even if it is just a hat every 8 beats! I swear his tunes are simple to mix and if anyone says otherwise I would have to say they have not been mixing long. sorry.



I garentee to you tho his tunes are very easy to mix. They are simple and stay in time no matter what. U can fix the pitch in 2 mins and then go and make a coffee and its still locked.



Fact, Dubstep is easy to mix! I dont just mean throwing beats in n out. I mean full on long tight mixes every time. Only time you may find things tricky is if someone does not have things sequenced, ie Burial.

Do you even listen to Skream? I can think of quite a few of his recent tunes off the top of my head that dont have percussion in the intro and there are several that arent 140 too. I am on mobile or Id link it up, maybe when I am home from work.

Also this isnt dnb 140 or not not all tunes will mix with al tunes, triplet groove, swung grooves and straight grooves, dubstep has it all. You cant just grab random tunes from the bag with dstep.

[serox]

Do you even listen to Skream? I can think of quite a few of his recent tunes off the top of my head that dont have percussion in the intro and there are several that arent 140 too. I am on mobile or Id link it up, maybe when I am home from work.

Also this isnt dnb 140 or not not all tunes will mix with al tunes, triplet groove, swung grooves and straight grooves, dubstep has it all. You cant just grab random tunes from the bag with dstep.

I am not sure which recent tunes you are on about so will wait to you can link before I can comment. But like I already said above you don’t even need a beat to match the tempos. Again, Dubstep is an easy genre to make. Everything that ias made now days is easy compared to old stuff. Everything is sequenced and stuck on a grid. It does not matter if it is in triplets or not at all, its all sequenced and it all stays in time!

If it is physically possible to get the pitch right then it all depends on tune selection if it sounds good. You can mix any swung beats with another tune with swing or even a 4/4 Techno track, if u want. I often play out using other peoples records that are in no order and I have never heard. All you do is pick one up, listen to it and u can tell what type of track it is and if it will sound well with what is being played. Sometimes you have to go thru like 4 records till you can find something but that all adds to the fun of using unknown records.

I have untold records where I may need to pitch them down to -6 and the other to +6.

Not sure why you mentioned DnB? I don’t like DnD or own any. If you are trying to say all DnB tracks go together then you are massively mistaken. With all genres there is different styles and vibes and tune selection and order is important. Just because things are in the same tempo does not mean they will go together.

[__________]

in response to the original post, I'd say that tune in particular is not DJ friendly because you drop the bassline straight away on bar 1. I wouldn't play that in a set.
Take the bassline out for the first 16 or 32 bars and then DJs will be much more inclined to put it in a set

There's just no need for a bassline in the intro...build up to it...