Is sound quality enough of a reason to allow CDJ's?

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Re: Is sound quality enough of a reason to allow CDJ's?

Post by apotheist » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:10 am

erm ... ever thought of serato? or traktor, torq, whatever ...
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Re: Is sound quality enough of a reason to allow CDJ's?

Post by lowpass » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:34 pm

The argument is more about the audio quality between digital vs vinyl, not how easy it is to use one or the other. Using Dvs systems has the same audio quality of cd's (depending on the quality of audio interface) not vinyl.

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Re: Is sound quality enough of a reason to allow CDJ's?

Post by ghst » Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:02 pm

lowpass wrote:This threads hurting my head, from what I know:-

- Cd's do not brick wall at 22khz, there is a reason that the frequencies go up to 22 and not 20 and that is so that the filter can be more gradual, affecting the audio in the audible range much less. There is another argument that cutting frequencies above this still affects us because it is not just our ears that "hear" the music (different argument however)
I'm pretty sure they do brick wall at 22k, shannon-nyquist theorem?
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Re: Is sound quality enough of a reason to allow CDJ's?

Post by collige » Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:32 pm

ghst wrote:
lowpass wrote:This threads hurting my head, from what I know:-

- Cd's do not brick wall at 22khz, there is a reason that the frequencies go up to 22 and not 20 and that is so that the filter can be more gradual, affecting the audio in the audible range much less. There is another argument that cutting frequencies above this still affects us because it is not just our ears that "hear" the music (different argument however)
I'm pretty sure they do brick wall at 22k, shannon-nyquist theorem?
Lowpass is right. It's mathematically impossible to have a brick wall filter. Nonetheless, there are still not going to be any frequencies higher than 22khz on any medium unless the producer is on a mad audiophile tip.
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Re: Is sound quality enough of a reason to allow CDJ's?

Post by boogiemeister » Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:08 pm

an analog signal theoretically has infinite resolution, there is something above 22 kHz but you wouldn't hear/feel it anyway. Here's a couple of seconds of a vinyl recorded at 96 khz, 24 Bit. The signal doesn't cut off at 16 or 20 or whereever it goes all the way to the top.
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Personally I don't like the sound of digital clipping when you play really loud. Records sound not that harsh even when the whole rig runs through a limiter. However that's a matter of personal taste. CD's/mp3's are generally mastered much louder than records. I think CDs sound great at home or in the car but when playing out I think they sound too "clean" in a way. But still like I said, it's a matter of personal preference. I prefer Serato/Traktor/Mixvibes whatever over CDJs since you can still see how the songs goes, where the breaks are etc, kinda similar to what you see on the grooves of a record. The small graph on a CDJ doesn't really cut it for me.

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Re: Is sound quality enough of a reason to allow CDJ's?

Post by twentyOneDummies » Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:31 pm

I say spin what you enjoy and feel comfortable with. Personally I'm quite visual and enjoy cutting up/resampling tracks in ableton but I can definitely appreciate the tactile sensation of a vinyl (I learned to mix on 1200s) and the ease of CDJs. Think about it from an audience's point of view: it's absolutely ridiculous to get mad at a DJ over which format he's using. Assuming you're using proper store bought files and the promoter's got a reasonably well set-up soundsystem then the quality will be fine and it comes down to your skills, ability to read a crowd etc.
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Re: Is sound quality enough of a reason to allow CDJ's?

Post by TRNSPLNT » Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:50 pm

if you afford it, get 1000's or 900's or 2000's if your minted.

ive got 200's. i love them, but if i had the cash i'd take the step up. but i wouldnt say you NEED 1000's

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