Ear protection

[nitz]

Allrite people of DSF, it seem that am in serious need of help/advice. Recently, i have seen a number of threads about protecting your ears, and ear damage and my tinnitus thread. Which let me tell you, its seem that i did not have a "run in with tinnitus" is the thread suggested but rather i actually have to now (i think). Its been well over a month and i still have this ringing thing in my ear. Plus i find it really... hard to go sleep at night, because its all peace and quite so the ringing goes nuts sometimes.

Even tho i when to the doctors after a week, he said you cant have it at this young age, and checked my ear and said there is no damage to the ear drum, but this condition is more of a physiologically condition, for example when your out and about your cant even hear it because you are not thinking about it, but as soon as you think about it, it comes back. but at least there is not physical damage to my ear.

So on that note... i need some ear protection, ear plugs. Now, i seen on seeing this ear plugs over and over again ER9/15/20...
i looked into these ear plugs and i dont no noting about ear plugs or which on to get...
How do i know which ones are good for me ? and more importantly when do i use them? of course, djing, clubing but what else?

It would be great if someone could give me some guide to what to do

Thanks (sorry for any bad English, my hands are cold)

[Disco Nutter]

Just use them whenever there is a high level of noise.

I roll with these and love them:
http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/se ... ck=ALPLUGS



Jason

[lowpass]

Hi, I recently got the custom er-15's

perfect for dj'in, I haven't used em in a club yet (just in my room) but they are great, can still hear everything and when you're in loud situations helps clear up some of that noise you get which hurts your ear.

I've heard that the 25's can be too distant and that the 9's may not do enough for your ear. I find the 15's comfy and don't piss about with the sound too badly though,

Highly recommend them (despite the price £180)

[h*product]

i use the er25s and can't recommend them highly enough. i DJ with them in clubs and wear them when at raves.

expensive but if you can afford them get them. otherwise the ones from chemical are fine.

also my flatmate was looking into the tinnitus thing and it often is psychological, you can get audio cds that train your ear to ignore the noise, or try taking garlic supplements (don't ask me why) they're meant to help.

good luck

[nitz]

Hi, I recently got the custom er-15's

perfect for dj'in, I haven't used em in a club yet (just in my room) but they are great, can still hear everything and when you're in loud situations helps clear up some of that noise you get which hurts your ear.

I've heard that the 25's can be too distant and that the 9's may not do enough for your ear. I find the 15's comfy and don't piss about with the sound too badly though,

Highly recommend them (despite the price £180)

Cheers Lowpass, i remember you saying you got some. Now, am a little confused about the "custom" er-15's.
What makes them custom ? and i was reading etymotic brochure
"http://www.etymotic.com/pdf/erme-brochure.pdf"
and it all seems abit baffling to be. Its seems for the full protection you should get the er 15 or 25's. However, many times it said on that brochure about how you must where the plugs correctly or it does not work...? Do you have to jam them right in ? does that hurt or feel uncomfortable, because i dont really like anything going into my ears, because i get abit afraid i might push it too far and damage something.

[nitz]

i use the er25s and can't recommend them highly enough. i DJ with them in clubs and wear them when at raves.

expensive but if you can afford them get them. otherwise the ones from chemical are fine.

also my flatmate was looking into the tinnitus thing and it often is psychological, you can get audio cds that train your ear to ignore the noise, or try taking garlic supplements (don't ask me why) they're meant to help.

good luck

Nice, how much did you pick up the er 25's for?

You can never put a price on your health man, even thought its allmost £200

Yes, like i said its more psychological, plus i need to look up for these cds. Does your flatmate have tinnitus ? i would be nice to hear what he has to say about it.

[casual-p]

hullo,
was also thinking about investing in the ER range. Was wondering if there is any alternative to these that headphones fit over?

[thierry_le_dj]

yea am also getting a pair soon too!

my ear's is starting to copped it too..

i will use them for parties and maybe when i play out too.

[G31]

always wear some sort of plugs if you value your hearing...

[nitz]

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[Basic A]

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Why wear earplugs n rave, bit defeatest innit? If loud isnt your thing, dont go too it.

[nitz]

Come one people!!!!!! Give me some help on this topic!

Plus i have heard that sound is dang ours at the level, when you have someone in the room and you have to raise to voice to speck to them? which is about 50/60/70 hz (i think....) Same goes for when mixing and mastering

But back to the topic, anyone....?

[Matt_Damage]

Strangely enough i ordered some of the music safe pros ( got them from amazon rather than chemical though) because i have had a ringing in my ears since new year. Some days it's fine but when i think about it, i hear it a lot clearer. I'll be getting some of the custom er's as soon as i can afford them but these will do until that time.

[nitz]

Strangely enough i ordered some of the music safe pros ( got them from amazon rather than chemical though) because i have had a ringing in my ears since new year. Some days it's fine but when i think about it, i hear it a lot clearer. I'll be getting some of the custom er's as soon as i can afford them but these will do until that time.

How are they working out ? Nice? does the job? I hope they dont cloud some sounds, and do they fit in your ears conformly ? any pain/ hurting?

[setspeed]

@nitz


the 'custom' part is that they are shaped exactly to your ear. You go to the specialist and he puts cold rubber gel down your earholes. This feels really, really weird. Then he takes it out, and 2 weeks later you go back and collect your custom plugs which are shaped exactly the same as your ear canal. You never have to shove them in and they are comfortable for several hours.

I've had mine about 2 years now and I don't leave the house without them. I only use them for clubs & concerts but they're really good. They don't change the sound at all, and if you're in a quiet room you can still talk normally to someone with them in (although you have to be concious that you don't shout!). But if you're in a club, and the bass is hitting your chest, putting something in your ear wouldn't change that.

they are expensive, but imagine if you actually started going deaf - how much would you pay to be able to enjoy music again? thousands, I should imagine...

[mks]

I have the ER-15's and they're the best investment I ever made with music, especially if you DJ or hang out in clubs a lot. I've had mine for nine years now and I'm going to get a new set soon as the rubber starts to harden over time. I'll probably get the ER-25 filter next time to have two sets of filters.

I was going to answer the custom part, but setspeed beat me to it. But yeah, they pour a mold in your ears and get an exact replica of your ear shape. There is no danger of pushing them in too far as they are wider on the outside end and will just fit your ear perfectly.

You can wear headphones over them. I've had to do it a few times when I didn't have easy control over the monitors.

Just get them. They are a way more worthy investment than the next vst or piece of kit that you want.

EZ

[HAACK]

Whenever I go to shows I always use ear plugs, mostly standard that you buy at local supply store.

[Disco Nutter]

Why wear earplugs n rave, bit defeatest innit? If loud isnt your thing, dont go too it.

This is just stupid. Having fun does not mean that you have to risk your health.

I wear earplugs and that doesn't stop me from having loads of fun at raves. I can talk to people easier and my ears don't ring as much. You can feel the bass the same way you do without the earplugs; the rest of the spectrum is just lowered in volume.

Even when I play out I wear earplugs. Even when having the headphones over, because I have the habit to raise their volume to the max.

It's a bit like having sex with strangers every night. When doing it without protection - you put yourself to a risk.

I'll gladly substitute loud music for health. Everybody should.

Jason

PS. Also... there is no pain in wearing them.

[lowpass]

Yeah as said before, you go to an audiologist and have this weird gel put into your ears. (Quietest anything has ever been, tinnitus has never been louder )

the moulds are then sent off and made into your ear plugs.

The great thing about them is they are made to your ears, so not only are they comfortable as fuck, they are amazing at attenuating sound because there are no gaps for the sound to get by. (they work btw by sound traveling through a filter that is built into the ear plug which can replaced for weaker or stronger attenuators)

One of the main reasons I chose these for dj'ing was that they are really discreet when they are in your ears, which means that as well as not looking like a tool for having huge plugs in each ear, they are very easy to wear headphones over.

p.s I went with the black and white swirls (colour shown on the page) costs an extra £20 but was well worth it.

peace

[nitz]

Allrite ! Thanks for all the info guys seriously i needed that! Still got a few bits and bobs i want to clear up!

1. Fuck the price, seriously, there is no price you can put on your health..! Even tho its £180 ish, i have allready started counting my pennies.

2. I found some shocking even scraying info on wiki, when i googled in ear plugs, to save you the long read i have copyed that section out.

"Earplugs are generally safe, but precautions may be needed against a number of possible health risks, with additional ones appearing with long term use:
Pushing in earplugs into the external ear canal may cause the air pressure to rise in it, in effect pushing against the eardrum and causing pain. This may be caused by pressure on the ear while lying down on the side, and is also the case when completely expanded foam earplugs are pushed further into the ear. To bypass the latter risk, such earplugs are instead removed, compressed and inserted to the desired depth. Vice versa, when pulled out, the resultant negative pressure pulls the eardrum. Therefore, some earplugs are better carefully screwed or jiggled out rather than yanked out. Yawning does not help equalizing this air pressure difference, since it equalizes the pressures between the middle ear and the environment, while this overpressure rather is located in the outer ear, between the eardrum and the earplug.
If pushed too far into the ear canal, they may push ear wax and debris into the canal and possibly against the ear drum.[14] As a precaution, ear plugs should not be pushed further into the ear canal than they may be grabbed and rotated.[15] Ear wax impacted by earplugs can be removed by irrigation or other remedies, as described there.
There is a possibility for allergic reactions, but this is likely rare, as earplugs generally are made of immunologically inert materials."

?? Something thats meant to protect you ears is hurting them at the same time? how does that work out

3. I know you have to go to audiologist, but then that must be linked somehow to etymotic? do you have to contack etymotic first ? or go to the audiologist?

4. Plus one more thing, i think i have tinnitus, well petty much sure i got it. When am at the audiologist can he test me somehow? because am still quite young, in comparison with what i have read, which say you get in about 30/40 but i dont believe everything i read on the net. Plus do i have to pay to see the audiologist

5. @Lowpass, Black and white? hmm i dont see that haha.

Thanks once again, you must have saved my life.