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Re: Re-Creating Burial's "Fostercare"

Post by futurist » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:42 am

yea after playing around i sort of dropped it lol

i have however been working on Burial and Scuba style drum patterns/beats

This is what I have come up with recently (not done btw)
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Re: Re-Creating Burial's "Fostercare"

Post by Basic A » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:48 am

My point is though, turn quantize off n ignore your bpm...

Or like...

Use Audacity or some kinda cut n paste DAW like that...

Thats whats up with his drums though, thier not on a grid dude, I mean, you can make MINIMAL drums all ya want, but until you make minimal drums n turn the quantize off, they wont be like the mans.
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Re: Re-Creating Burial's "Fostercare"

Post by JFK » Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:27 am

Basic A wrote:My point is though, turn quantize off n ignore your bpm...

Or like...

Use Audacity or some kinda cut n paste DAW like that...

Thats whats up with his drums though, thier not on a grid dude, I mean, you can make MINIMAL drums all ya want, but until you make minimal drums n turn the quantize off, they wont be like the mans.
I dont think that Burials beats are all that minimal tbh...........

100% agree on the "quantize off" point though. It needs to be SUBTLE though. Also important is how you work the velocites of the hits. Burials are all over the shop (in a good way).

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Re: Re-Creating Burial's "Fostercare"

Post by futurist » Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:32 am

I use Cubase 5, I think i could do that with the maschine possibly
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Re: Re-Creating Burial's "Fostercare"

Post by Basic A » Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:47 am

futurist wrote:I use Cubase 5, I think i could do that with the maschine possibly
Dont other daws have a step sequencer??? i use fl.. but lay some rythms in the step sequencer>piano roll>turn quantize off> move a bit n add shit...
JFK wrote:Also important is how you work the velocites of the hits. Burials are all over the shop (in a good way).
Panning n a bit of note fine ptch on each hit too in my ears.
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Re: Re-Creating Burial's "Fostercare"

Post by jsills » Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:21 pm

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Wirez, i agree its all about the subtle reverb and delay that make burials tracks so epic. the rhythms sort of root everything and the vocals and synths just float off into space.

Basic, I read that burial didnt know what quantize was at first so ended up learning how to make rhythms freehand, which is a huge reason the drums feel so human.

that i think is the genious of burial, it has this natural quality that just feels organic

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Post by wirez » Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:27 pm

jsills wrote:ReUp



Wirez, i agree its all about the subtle reverb and delay that make burials tracks so epic. the rhythms sort of root everything and the vocals and synths just float off into space.

Basic, I read that burial didnt know what quantize was at first so ended up learning how to make rhythms freehand, which is a huge reason the drums feel so human.

that i think is the genious of burial, it has this natural quality that just feels organic
To elaborate on what you were saying, I think the drums in Burial tracks are insignificant to the musicality. Judging by the amount of people asking about them on DSF, I think people over-exaggerate their importance, which I feel is very little.
I think that Fostercare actually helps to prove this point, the drums are near enough non existent... Basically just a stick marking the groove of the entire track.
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Post by narcissus » Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:54 pm

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Post by Blue Patterns » Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:36 pm

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Re: Re-Creating Burial's "Fostercare"

Post by Basic A » Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:42 pm

wirez wrote:I think that Fostercare actually helps to prove this point, the drums are near enough non existent...
What about endorphin?
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Re: Re-Creating Burial's "Fostercare"

Post by Lichee » Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:08 pm

Basic A wrote:
wirez wrote:I think that Fostercare actually helps to prove this point, the drums are near enough non existent...
What about endorphin?
obviously...it has no drums

Burial is pure genius. The thing i love is how, myself included, people spend so long trying to get their music to sound like his and to get as good as him analysing his music and the fact is he just feels it and does it all by ear. He said himself he doesn't really understand music theory or all of the technical stuff and that's why he's so fucking amazing. In one interview i remember he said that on soundforge that its so shit once he does something it cant be undone. So there's just a build up of subtle sound layered and layered until he gets it. I heard a tune by Joker and Ginz and it made me want to go into all this techy precise dubstep but then i listen to burial again and think fuck it i'm gonna let it flow.

Burial is my idol and I would do stuff I wouldn't be proud of to meet him. In fact, I would probably eat shit to meet Burial.

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Post by Basic A » Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:26 pm

Lichee wrote:
Burial is my idol and I would do stuff I wouldn't be proud of to meet him. In fact, I would probably eat shit to meet Burial.
Artists are human, he looks like a younger head, n like hed probably object to such nonsense if it was really all that n you were in he same area, jesus god man, dont worship peoples spit out bubble gum.

Hes an awesome artist, and really... what everyones getting at here... its the fact that its samples processed in a tape music esque manner that makes it all so special.

Mans a genious musician.

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Re: Re-Creating Burial's "Fostercare"

Post by Lichee » Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:24 pm

haha it was a joke, though i probably would if you throw in loads of money. nah its just he is the best electronic musical artist ever imo. which is my opinion.

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Post by wirez » Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:44 pm

I prefer Synkro at the moment, but that's a different story...
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Post by Basic A » Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:48 am

wirez wrote:I prefer Synkro at the moment, but that's a different story...
as someone whos musical taste might half respect, wtf is worth listenin to of this kids? Everything Ive heard sounds a bit dry...
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Post by wirez » Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:09 am

Basic A wrote:
wirez wrote:I prefer Synkro at the moment, but that's a different story...
as someone whos musical taste might half respect, wtf is worth listenin to of this kids? Everything Ive heard sounds a bit dry...
Everybody Knows / Closer / Tell Me / Just To See Her

I just like the way he's sort of used Burials style to make something a bit more commercially friendly and 'normal' :lol: As much as I like Burial, his weirdness is his characteristic which shouldn't really be used as inspiration. I've said before on a youtube post that I see Synkro as the lover of the genre, whereas I see Burial as the lonely one who is nearly in tears when he sees Synkro on the bus with his woman...

I'm just a sucker for this whole sound, Future Garage is me (not that either Synkro or Burial is necessarily classed in this genre, but for the sake of tagging...)
I find it hard to listen to anything produced well in this genre and saying I dislike it... But I was a complete sucker for Garage as well!
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Re: Re-Creating Burial's "Fostercare"

Post by Lichee » Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:50 pm

if i was going to listen to synkro i would just listen to burial. i've listened to some of his stuff and i thought ye he's good he kinda sounbds like burial. but that's the thing, he sounds LIKE burial. But your right about him being a more ocmmercial burial, he would probably be good for people who want to listen to that style but more light heartedly.

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Post by serox » Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:52 pm

jsills wrote:
Basic, I read that burial didnt know what quantize was at first so ended up learning how to make rhythms freehand, which is a huge reason the drums feel so human.

that i think is the genious of burial, it has this natural quality that just feels organic
Bollox didnt he:)

He has been on a music course and knows what he is on about. There are even rumors going around that he didnt even make it in Soundforge. He is not as dumb as he tries to make out.
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Re: Re-Creating Burial's "Fostercare"

Post by phrex » Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:31 pm

wirez wrote:Burial is such an amazing Producer, Composer and even scientist.... Everything is just perfect, the harmonics, the space and use of reverb and delay... It's just all so correct...
no no no.
not at all perfect! an that's what makes it so damn great! there are so many little things that don't really fit or are absolutely far away of the tune. i don't think that perfectness is the delightment of a dubstep or whatever-future-bass-track.
that's maybe true for pop music.

and that's what makes burials sound so fascinating to listen to. each time i listen to burial i hear something else/something new.

my opinion. still, the whole rest of your text is true. he's a genious
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Re: Re-Creating Burial's "Fostercare"

Post by wirez » Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:58 pm

Lichee wrote:if i was going to listen to synkro i would just listen to burial. i've listened to some of his stuff and i thought ye he's good he kinda sounbds like burial. but that's the thing, he sounds LIKE burial. But your right about him being a more ocmmercial burial, he would probably be good for people who want to listen to that style but more light heartedly.
I don't necessarily agree with not listening to him because he sounds like Burial, there are noticeable differences that separate him from Burial and anyway, if somebody is as good as Burial and sounds like them, then really they're just increasing the amount of different tunes to listen to... So it's no reason not to listen to him lol

But yeh, I like the lighthearted side, I actually must say that the majority of times when I want to listen to music I do want to listen to a beat lol, so often Synkro is slightly better to listen to for that reason, in that situation!
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