Changing production values.

[Blue Patterns]

black moon - enta da stage...

but I'd like to hear more FlyLo shit that isn't so loud. his music is good regardless, obviously, but sometimes it's too much.

[b166er]

black moon - enta da stage...

but I'd like to hear more FlyLo shit that isn't so loud. his music is good regardless, obviously, but sometimes it's too much.

I have no idea where you were going with that but at least you got the right music for it! Top crew dem. Buckshot was one of my favs all time! But really, you high?

[Blue Patterns]

black moon - enta da stage...

but I'd like to hear more FlyLo shit that isn't so loud. his music is good regardless, obviously, but sometimes it's too much.

I have no idea where you were going with that but at least you got the right music for it! Top crew dem. Buckshot was one of my favs all time! But really, you high?

the real question is, are YOU high?

listen to how grimey and rugged that album sounds and tell me you can't make the connection.

Pull any hip-hop album from that era really.

[b166er]

I actually have that one on tape.. cassette! And I recall it sounding smooth, cause of the saturation. But yeah, I see where you were going with that. Just kinda non sequitur. Yeah, I used that word. Actually I have a of tapes from that era, Brand Nubian was my fav. Punks Jump Up! Oh shit I feel a remix comin on....

[Blue Patterns]

I really wish I still had all my cassettes. I've lost them all I think.



fuckin love cassette

[b166er]

I actually have my old Kenwood dubber on the workbench. I haven't used it in so long that the belts are stuck in their shape, and keep coming off. But I see Ebays got TOP notch decks for pennies, unless you want a Nakamichi Dragon, which I do...

[fiziks]

Yes and know. Chemical Brothers "Dig Your Own Hole" is from 97 and is as sonically massive as anything coming out today and in most cases more than. Same with Goldie's albums. I was listening to "Saturnz Return" last night and it didn't seem lacking at all. Alot of older tunes I have on wax are muddy. Good tunes none the less.

[grooki]

^ Dig Your Own Hole, one of my favorite electronic music albums of all time. That cd is a trip!

[abZ]

Yes and know. Chemical Brothers "Dig Your Own Hole" is from 97 and is as sonically massive as anything coming out today and in most cases more than. Same with Goldie's albums. I was listening to "Saturnz Return" last night and it didn't seem lacking at all. Alot of older tunes I have on wax are muddy. Good tunes none the less.

One advantage that the old London producers had was they typically sat in on the mastering sessions plus the mastering engineers they used were very familiar with the material and how to cut it. I am sure they still do it that way there but the music is all over the world now and most of us don't have that luxury. Not quite the same but I do have a good relationship with Symbl who does the mastering for Savory and I will tell you it makes for a better product. He is nice enough to tell me if there is something fucked up in the mix so that the producer has a chance to fix it before it gets etched in stone.

[nowaysj]

Okay, listened to Flim tonight on a proper stereo. I was tripping. Totally tight and clean.

[kwami]

It's warm, remember he was using synths back when midi wasn't available, probably doing take after take with a metronome.

[nowaysj]

It is warm, but it's not murky or sloppily played/programmed. I should be slapped for even suggesting it.

[dddemain]

Yeah man, Flim still sounds perfect to me...

[Mad_EP]

but I'd like to hear more FlyLo shit that isn't so loud. his music is good regardless, obviously, but sometimes it's too much.

This. I like his musical ideas... but his production is so squashed to shit that I just can't listen to it... even at low volumes.

[JFK]

I just listened to "Black Sunday" for the first time in a long long while........... Its still my favourite album of all time but..... fuck me it does sound pretty ropey in places.

The trumpet sample in "When the shit goes down" is pure jokes.

[mks]

but I'd like to hear more FlyLo shit that isn't so loud. his music is good regardless, obviously, but sometimes it's too much.

This. I like his musical ideas... but his production is so squashed to shit that I just can't listen to it... even at low volumes.

Yeah, I have some cuts from another artist who has some great musical ideas and arrangements but the tracks are so limited and squashed that it is almost unbearable. I'll play it on my portable mp3 player with the volume turned almost all of the way down and it's still sounding too loud...

It's too bad really. I would actually buy more of this guy's tunes but I have to think twice about it now.

[grooki]

I just listened to "Black Sunday" for the first time in a long long while........... Its still my favourite album of all time but..... fuck me it does sound pretty ropey in places.

The trumpet sample in "When the shit goes down" is pure jokes.

Really? whenever I hear that album I marvel at how good it sounds. warm funk!

[abZ]

I just listened to "Black Sunday" for the first time in a long long while........... Its still my favourite album of all time but..... fuck me it does sound pretty ropey in places.

The trumpet sample in "When the shit goes down" is pure jokes.

Really? whenever I hear that album I marvel at how good it sounds. warm funk!

Well I don't think those hiphop producers really tried to get everything 100% in key with each other. It's part of the charm tho. Muggs is a bad man. He did the Funkdoobiest and House of Pain records too, I used to rinse that shit.

[JFK]

I just listened to "Black Sunday" for the first time in a long long while........... Its still my favourite album of all time but..... fuck me it does sound pretty ropey in places.

The trumpet sample in "When the shit goes down" is pure jokes.

Really? whenever I hear that album I marvel at how good it sounds. warm funk!

Well I don't think those hiphop producers really tried to get everything 100% in key with each other. It's part of the charm tho. Muggs is a bad man. He did the Funkdoobiest and House of Pain records too, I used to rinse that shit.

True, true. Dont get it twisted Im not saying its a bad thing.

I like things that sound funky and organic (and like I said this is my favourite album of all time) but I cant help but think that if they tried to drop this album now there would be soooooo many people who would turn their noses up at it because they are production snobs.

Just thought it was a good example of changing production values thats all......

[grooki]

I just listened to "Black Sunday" for the first time in a long long while........... Its still my favourite album of all time but..... fuck me it does sound pretty ropey in places.

The trumpet sample in "When the shit goes down" is pure jokes.

Really? whenever I hear that album I marvel at how good it sounds. warm funk!

Well I don't think those hiphop producers really tried to get everything 100% in key with each other. It's part of the charm tho. Muggs is a bad man. He did the Funkdoobiest and House of Pain records too, I used to rinse that shit.

True, true. Dont get it twisted Im not saying its a bad thing.

I like things that sound funky and organic (and like I said this is my favourite album of all time) but I cant help but think that if they tried to drop this album now there would be soooooo many people who would turn their noses up at it because they are production snobs.

Just thought it was a good example of changing production values thats all......

For sure!