noobs hate me

[deadly_habit]

need more orig content instead of same stupid shit it has been for months

Yup. Know what I use the forum for most of the time? To use as a benchmark as to what I shouldn't be doing.
When I take smoke breaks I'll put on a track from someones Soundcloud/Myspace etc and either be relieved I sound nothing like it or disgusted that people are actually passing [sh]it off as music.

why i tend to only listen to shit i get directly sent or soundclouds/myspaces from people i actually chat with

[moki]

www.hatestepforum.com

[drokkr]

I said it ages ago... Production forum has gone to shit. I'm sure someone even sigged it for a while.

[moki]

This thread is really helping to improve dsf. nice one..

[deadly_habit]

fantastic mr fox and james blake are new godsends

[abZ]

Gotta admit, recently the production forum has gone down the pan in recent times...

It has always been like this man. TBH the production forum is more of a place for the n00bs, the vets aren't going to learn much here but maybe you'll teach the youngins something. I come on here for the lolz tbh, I know I am a part of the problem

[deadly_habit]

Gotta admit, recently the production forum has gone down the pan in recent times...

It has always been like this man. TBH the production forum is more of a place for the n00bs, the vets aren't going to learn much here but maybe you'll teach the youngins something. I come on here for the lolz tbh, I know I am a part of the problem

made some good contacts on here though more than old doa bs anyways

[critical sound system]

Dubstep is what you make out of it, you can choose where you drive it.
part of the problem is idols and medias. for ex the dubstep awards are making the next year's idols an telling the mass witch dubstep they must like. instead the people who have more experience in the scene should be the ones to teach the noobs. And certainly not the fucking BBC.
Here i choose not to colaborate with the people who wanted to spread the generic wobble style. So our recently born scene is still underground.

[tavravlavish]

oh yea in trying to be inoffensive i missed statin the point, all you new bandwagon jumpers are pricks, wobble my massive?? suck your mum! i actually met what i took to be the personification of what you would call a noob, he tried to tell me some wobble track was amazing, typical funny looking shoreditch type, ruining my saturday night, making me question why i make a certain music when it's only gonna be recieved by these fucking melts

An opinion ruined your saturday night?

HAHAHA

get off this forum please.

[tavravlavish]

im in it for the sample comps, helllla fuuuun

[christthetiger]

ya'll some miserable ******

[nowaysj]

It has always been like this man. TBH the production forum is more of a place for the n00bs, the vets aren't going to learn much here but maybe you'll teach the youngins something. I come on here for the lolz tbh, I know I am a part of the problem

Bro, if you don't stop posting exactly what I was going to say, you're gonna have to take over my rent and student loans. There's no need for two of us in the world.

[narcissus]

i like to see the mistakes the N00bs n fucktards are making, helps me steer myself away from that path

plus the sample packs/vsts are nice.. better than searching on google... good conversation too

[Depone]

Gotta admit, recently the production forum has gone down the pan in recent times...

It has always been like this man. TBH the production forum is more of a place for the n00bs, the vets aren't going to learn much here but maybe you'll teach the youngins something. I come on here for the lolz tbh, I know I am a part of the problem

made some good contacts on here though more than old doa bs anyways

Im thinking of making a weekly 5 min screen cast of me making a track, or getting one of my finished tracks and diceting it. What do you think? will it be worth it?

[JFK]

Have to admit the quality of discussion has gone down hill somewhat recently. But I just think its indicative of the whole scene........ We should rename this place the "Brostep forum" because. like it or not, the majority of people who post here are 15 - 21 years old, only found out about Dubstep last week and are only interested in sounding like Rusko because that is what they hear in the club every Saturday. Im sorry but this music is not dubstep, its just not, in the same way that Pendulum and fucking SubFocus (Ive met and he is a stuck up rich boy cock, but I digress......) are not DnB.

I am quite active in the feedback forum and the amount of tunes that have any type of integrity or originality has plummeted. People are lazy. Its easy to sync fucking LFO to filter cutoffs, its easy to layer white noise snares, its fucking easy to play two notes and chop them up into a "bassline", its easy to send this shite to digital labels and get it put out, which in turn means that we are letting the scene become diluted with sub standard garbage.

Dubstep basically came about becasue DnB and Garage and Grime all became commercial and laughable. How many more genres need to be raped and reduced to a joke before we as producers, label owners, radio dj's, club night organisers etc take some fucking ownership of this and draw a line in the sand and say "this far and no further"

Sorry if this has come across as a rambling rant but this means so much to me and I cannot bear the thought of Dubstep becoming another washed out (triphop anyone?) directionless joke.

[deadly_habit]

Have to admit the quality of discussion has gone down hill somewhat recently. But I just think its indicative of the whole scene........ We should rename this place the "Brostep forum" because. like it or not, the majority of people who post here are 15 - 21 years old, only found out about Dubstep last week and are only interested in sounding like Rusko because that is what they hear in the club every Saturday. Im sorry but this music is not dubstep, its just not, in the same way that Pendulum and fucking SubFocus (Ive met and he is a stuck up rich boy cock, but I digress......) are not DnB.

I am quite active in the feedback forum and the amount of tunes that have any type of integrity or originality has plummeted. People are lazy. Its easy to sync fucking LFO to filter cutoffs, its easy to layer white noise snares, its fucking easy to play two notes and chop them up into a "bassline", its easy to send this shite to digital labels and get it put out, which in turn means that we are letting the scene become diluted with sub standard garbage.

Dubstep basically came about becasue DnB and Garage and Grime all became commercial and laughable. How many more genres need to be raped and reduced to a joke before we as producers, label owners, radio dj's, club night organisers etc take some fucking ownership of this and draw a line in the sand and say "this far and no further"

Sorry if this has come across as a rambling rant but this means so much to me and I cannot bear the thought of Dubstep becoming another washed out (triphop anyone?) directionless joke.

thats dance music in a nutshell not so much edm

[nowaysj]

I cannot bear the thought of Dubstep becoming another washed out (triphop anyone?) directionless joke.

This is life, bro. Everything is born then dies. Your parents, you, your children, your love, your civilization, your species, your planet...

[serox]

Dubstep basically came about becasue DnB and Garage and Grime all became commercial and laughable. How many more genres need to be raped and reduced to a joke before we as producers, label owners, radio dj's, club night organisers etc take some fucking ownership of this and draw a line in the sand and say "this far and no further"

Not really true I dont think.

It happened by mistake by artists trying to make grime/garage. They hooked onto to this new dark, bass heavy music being made at 138.

Everything good will be picked up by big label company's who want to push it into the charts, thats life!

There are loads of forums around so why not go somewhere else if you are to leet? (not directed at you jfk but anyone who thinks it is no good here)

This has been my number 1 source for learning how to produce music.

[JFK]

Not really true I dont think.

It happened by mistake by artists trying to make grime/garage. They hooked onto to this new dark, bass heavy music being made at 138.

Perhaps, but the reason we have seen a mass migration of producers and listeners from DnB to Dubstep is because of DnB becoming cheesy and the exact opposite of what it started out as.

I have learned a lot from this forum as well. I have made some fantastic contacts and have gotten some of the best and most useful feedback that I have ever recieved.

Its too easy to say "oh well, its just the way it is Im afraid......" or "Its happened to every genre thats gone before so its ok to let it happen to Dubstep" That is a defeatist, lazy attitude that breeds nothing more than apathy and indifference. Is it not worth it to try and keep some integrity within this scene we all hold so dear?

It amazes me that there are so many people on here that moan about the state of the scene but then go out and support the very same aspects that they are so opposed to.

Fucks sake. Im getting a massive fucking cob on now and I have to go into a meeting about fucking diesel prices......

[serox]

Perhaps, but the reason we have seen a mass migration of producers and listeners from DnB to Dubstep is because of DnB becoming cheesy and the exact opposite of what it started out as.

I have learned a lot from this forum as well. I have made some fantastic contacts and have gotten some of the best and most useful feedback that I have ever recieved.

Its too easy to say "oh well, its just the way it is Im afraid......" or "Its happened to every genre thats gone before so its ok to let it happen to Dubstep" That is a defeatist, lazy attitude that breeds nothing more than apathy and indifference. Is it not worth it to try and keep some integrity within this scene we all hold so dear?

It amazes me that there are so many people on here that moan about the state of the scene but then go out and support the very same aspects that they are so opposed to.

Fucks sake. Im getting a massive fucking cob on now and I have to go into a meeting about fucking diesel prices......

DnB has been cheesy and commercial for a very long time.

Dubstep is the new cool, or was. That also helped to bring in all the new attention. Dubstep is already cheesy! you only have to look at what everyone is playing and banging on about. It use to be dark, moody. Now I hear chipmunk vocals and cheesy trance leads, yuck.