hypothetically

[rinseballs21]

lets say i wanted to switch from FL to logic or reason for instance....


is the switch really that difficult....



could i take all my knowledge of fl....ie mixer tracks and eq'ing.....channel cloning etc straight to the new DAW????.....or does it take a while to switch?

[kontrol]

its not what you do its the way that you do it!

just need to find what works for you my friend

[wayoftheworld]

i think reasons drum sequencer might be a little bit of a turn off if you're coming from FL, which admittedly has one of the best sequencers around. can't speak for logic but ableton was pretty easy to get into and didnt take long at all to learn its workflow. its good like that. its actually made fruity seem rather backwards and annoying now.

[Basic A]

Youd be buyin a mac if your switchin to logic... Though, Im tempted.

[rinseballs21]

basically what im asking is.....is it a bitch to switch from daw's.....does it mean more bullshit time trying to get accustomed to the new program that could have been used making music

[b166er]

lets say i wanted to switch from FL to logic or reason for instance....


is the switch really that difficult....



could i take all my knowledge of fl....ie mixer tracks and eq'ing.....channel cloning etc straight to the new DAW????.....or does it take a while to switch?

Stick with Fruity. Its pretty damn awesome and shitloads of features.
You'll gain nothing learning a new DAW. Well I should say you might gain something, but the time it will take, you'd learn so much more from something you're already familiar with.
Typically people switch because they think other DAWs are better. Not completely true. The most you'll probably gain is a better workflo, if anything. The best producers out there, work with one DAW, and stick with it. Nowadays, ALL DAWs are pretty much comparable, maybe lacking one or two features here or there.

[Hurtdeer]

i switched from fruity loops to logic (and then logic+renoise later) awhile ago. Some things changed for the better instantly (getting rich sounds out of logic is half the effort it is from fl) but my overall workflow got truncated for months, especially with drum programming. So yeah, you might spend a little while getting used to the new systems before you can write as effectively as you used to again. Is it worth changing? I dunno, FL is a pretty great program already so there's no reason not to stay with it unless, like me, you wanted another DAW's sounds and have got some patience.

[boot]

Yeah man if you're happy with what you know then no need to change.
I've been using Cubase for about ten years now and have dabbled with other DAWs, but Cubase has everything I want in a DAW (especially now with batch export)
That said, it's really good to know how other DAWs work just in case you go to someone's studio to collab and they're using something different.

[nowaysj]

I've been trying to switch off fruity (for technical reasons) for some time now. I get extremely frustrated by other daw's ui's. Fruity's is so good. Now I hear that they're going to fix this technical problem, after 12 years! So I'm super psyched!

I think ur newb so it pays to dabble with a bunch of software to see what works with you. But knowing a daw fairly well, and then switching can be extremely painful.

I was switching only because I had to, but now it looks like I don't have to.

@hurtdeer, what do you mean it's so easy to get rich sounds out of logic? Do you mean with native sound sources and fx?

[Bledbox]

you don't have to switch, you could get another DAW like Cubase (or another that supports Rewire) and use them both together which is what I do, make all my drum loops in Fruity and all my synths in Cubase

[Hurtdeer]

@hurtdeer, what do you mean it's so easy to get rich sounds out of logic? Do you mean with native sound sources and fx?

Something about logic's audio processing gives the sounds a nice juicy sharpness that comes off a bit flatter in FL. And, yeah, the native synths and fxs are a whole lot nicer... I found programming sounds I was satisfied with became easier. it's not as much as a dealbreaker as it sounds though. Headhunter's synthy logic roundness is nicer to me than Ramadaman's synthy fruity roundness, but then Pangaea uses FL too and his production sounds amazing to me so... you can pretty much do what you need to in anything. I think I was really just trying to get away from PCs

[Jah Billah]

Yes rewire is the way, you can use all your FL, Reason toys at once.

[dddemain]

I have switched from FL to Cubase very recently and I didn't find it too bad. it took me a day or two to get most of the basics down and probably about a week to work out the rest. It's like a month on now and there are still a few things i find weird and every now and then I have to find a tutorial on some feature or other, but generally I've found it to be pretty intuitive. Also Cubase 4 comes with beat designer which is basically a better version of the drum sequencer used in FL, so I've found making beats in Cubase just as easy as in FL.
Hope that helps

[nowaysj]

Also Cubase 4 comes with beat designer which is basically a better version of the drum sequencer used in FL, so I've found making beats in Cubase just as easy as in FL.

[dddemain]

I don't get it... Have you used Beat Designer? If you had you'd know what i was on about.

Apart from not being able to edit sample pitches it has all the features of the FL sequencer but the swing function is localised to each individual sample giving you more control. It also has flam and overall swing controls, IMO it's better but whatever man

[nowaysj]

Localized swing is nice. But you can swing individual beats in fl's step sequencer as well. Being able to lay out 64 steps is nice too.

Didn't beat designer come out w/ 5 btw?

To each his own, I'm just fucking around w/ that jesuspalm, but really, fl's step sequencer roolz all.

[dddemain]

Didn't beat designer come out w/ 5 btw?

Yep fail on my part there. Things do tend to be a bit longer just generally on Cubase but I've found that the finished product is always better sounding because of it. IDK I do miss the drag, drop and make your beat easyness of FL

[Depone]

DO IT!!!

I changed from reason to Logic and never looked back!

[Basic A]

But you can swing individual beats in fl's step sequencer as well. Being able to lay out 64 steps is nice too.

Yeah, its like, you click the little scroll bar at the bottom of that menu, and use the shift tab, right?

[Depone]

i find Fl rely un-intuitive. i tried it for like a week and hated it. Its got a real backwards way of working. Clips??? patterns? what the f is up with that! Also it seems like it has a lot of great hidden features, but they don't always 'jump' to mind as it does when im using logic, cubase, ableton or reason.

Troll rant over

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