Is my love affair with dubstep over?

[brasco]

i think anyone who starts a thread title with the words 'filthiest','dirtiest','sickest' etc, followed by the word 'banger', should get an automatic ban...this will at least start making things more bearable on here

i feel that dubstep has got so big it is drawing in the wrong type of crowd...

i agree with this, and as much as im not an elitist, it does fuck me off when little chavvys are sitting on the bus with an attitude listening to some god awful mid range chainsaw mess and they keep talking about how 'sick and filthy dubstep is'.

[dj 2e]

Am i just an elitist tnuc who cant appreciate the scene getting bigger and bigger

I dont think you are being 'elitist'....

Iwent to Brighton the other day flyering, i got outside to see Headhunter was on the bill so went into the club for a bit...
whilst in there i spent most the night looking at my mate with a face that said 'what the fuck is this' to MOST the midrange wobble. Then Headhunter comes on and i was skankin like a mad man to all of it when previously throughout the night i had skanked to about 10 tracks in total.

I think what im trying to say is you just know what you like.... and dont really feel the other stuff.... it just so happen that u ended up liking the dmz sound more than say flux pavilion or such like. Im much the same i love stuff like Breakage, Verse, Icicle etc but i could list on 1 hand the amount of tracks i like by flux pavilion, borgore or others like them...

Thats my 2p's worth

[dj 2e]

Am i just an elitist tnuc who cant appreciate the scene getting bigger and bigger

I dont think you are being 'elitist'....

I went to Brighton the other day flyering, i got outside to see Headhunter was on the bill so went into the club for a bit...
whilst in there i spent most the night looking at my mate with a face that said 'what the fuck is this' to MOST the midrange wobble. Then Headhunter comes on and i was skankin like a mad man to all of it when previously throughout the night i had skanked to about 10 tracks in total.

I think what im trying to say is you just know what you like.... and dont really feel the other stuff.... it just so happen that u ended up liking the dmz sound more than say flux pavilion or such like. Im much the same i love stuff like Breakage, Verse, Icicle etc but i could list on 1 hand the amount of tracks i like by flux pavilion, borgore or others like them...

Thats my 2p's worth

[rekstep]

if u thrash out any tune in any genre to much u get sick of it

[sc0tty]

the sounds of: Fantastic mr fox, scuba, Jamie vexd, James Blake, mount kimbie, starkey, mala, raffertie, gemmy, joker, guido, Noah d, terror danjah, Addison groove, kryptic minds, Von d, burial, ginz, ikonika, untold, skreams latest on swamp81 and keysound, zomby, coki, joy orbison, sully, el-b, ld, lv, pervelists, hyetal, and 2562 just to name a tiny few are killing it right now, imho

I shall be checking these out. Although I havent been fully into the dubstep scene being primarily a dnbhead I have listened to dubstep for a about 3 or 4 years and I have found myself getting tired of the same sounds.

[force1]

I like it all, big tunes, small tunes, thin tunes, fat tunes, brown tunes, yellow tunes
tbh theres so much out there right now

ive been to a rave where it was pretty much tear out, jump up, whatever, all night, and i wasnt really feeling it after hours of the stuff but i got what it said on the tin so you cant complain, benga and skream were playin at BLOC festival, there not gonna play 'if you know' and 'on the edge' kinda tunes all night, what did you really expect?

if you like ramadanman, go and see him
if you like caspa, go and see him

Simple as.

[random trio]

It seems like more and more of you are discovering what dubstep was originally all about- BASS WEIGHT. Theres more to it then tear out, wobble jump up, brostep or whatever you wana call it. Dont give up on the scene just because your geting bored of this. Go check out some other artist..plenty more to choose from.

Benga and Skream are 2 of the main pioneers of this sound we all call dubstep. Without them none of this may of been possible. They pioneered the original and they pionnered the new so a massive big up to them.

[seckle]

It seems like more and more of you are discovering what dubstep was originally all about- BASS WEIGHT. Theres more to it then tear out, wobble jump up, brostep or whatever you wana call it. Dont give up on the scene just because your geting bored of this. Go check out some other artist..plenty more to choose from.

Benga and Skream are 2 of the main pioneers of this sound we all call dubstep. Without them none of this may of been possible. They pioneered the original and they pionnered the new so a massive big up to them.

[hipnotikk]

i think if we all hold tight for a minute, the fanboys will all be gone soon enough, and we can reclaim our scene, move forward, and get back to fundamentals.

at least i hope

[NilsFG]

It seems like more and more of you are discovering what dubstep was originally all about- BASS WEIGHT. Theres more to it then tear out, wobble jump up, brostep or whatever you wana call it. Dont give up on the scene just because your geting bored of this. Go check out some other artist..plenty more to choose from.

Benga and Skream are 2 of the main pioneers of this sound we all call dubstep. Without them none of this may of been possible. They pioneered the original and they pionnered the new so a massive big up to them.

Indeed, big up to them, they deserve lots of respect, seriously.

But, you can't ignore the fact that some of the things they're doing at the moment are pretty boring....

[lalanana]

there are many people there just because dubstep is 'cool' and worst of all a fight broke out in the 2nd room during oneman and joy orbison. i mean COME ON! the lights came on and security kicked out the group.

but later on, walking down the stairs, a lad (who i assume was in the fight) got bottled in the back of the head. blood pissed everywhere and the attacker ran off. the guy was left pretty much unconscious until a bouncer dragged him outside.

How could anyone get in a fight at a Joy Orbison set???

[notez_]

Dont give up on the scene just because your geting bored of this. Go check out some other artist..plenty more to choose from.

Benga and Skream are 2 of the main pioneers of this sound we all call dubstep. Without them none of this may of been possible. They pioneered the original and they pionnered the new so a massive big up to them.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge, huge fan of Kryptic Minds, Joy Orbison, James Blake and all the rest of the Swamp, Hotflush, Hessle and Hemlock crews but i guess im just fed up with being associated with all this "wobblestep" everytime i say im into dubstep. I guess it's more that im starting to become bored with what the scene is starting to represent now rather than those wonderfull corners of crisp snares, fresh synths and original beats that are still popping up...this time, however, their the minority.

I ofcourse cannot deny Skream and Benga were instrumental in getting me so into this scene but i find myself listening more to their older stuff. The new keysound release is probably a very good example, huge release and an immediate bag for me. And then theres Fire Call...



which is an absolute stormer, just a shame he doesnt play this stuff out more often

[aleks zen]

slightly unrelated, but i think its interesting how u had them hard body riddims like 0800 dub and memories (skream remix) on skins about 3 years ago. so there was some sick stuff being presented to the mainstream back then for example, but the music has ended up going down the wrong alley non the less

oh well

[wooda916]

Last saturday Dbridge, Instra:mental SP:MC and DISTANCE were down to play at Custard Factory in Birmingham, Autonomic special, Distances first time ever playing in Birmingham. Ive seen distance before at DMZ and Outlook, but ive been waiting for over 3 years to see him play in Brum.

The night completely flopped, I mean at its peak, around 12:30, there was probably 50 people spread across 2 rooms and outside. Dbridge turned up (eventually) and him and SP smashed it, even though there was barley anyone in the room, respect to them for that. Instra:mental and Distance however didn't show (probably because they were told not to bother) and the night was locked off at about 3 - 3:30.

Now down the road on the same night, Datsik was playing alongside some locals, this night was apparently rammed (and ive seen pics as evidence).

This is symptomatic of what has happened to the sound (especially in Brum) when someone like Datsik can bring in a massive crowd, but Distance, a pioneer in this genre, and a pioneer of the aggy side of things (without distance there is no Datsik imo) brings in 0 people!

It absolutely baffles me, what has happened??? Distance should be bringing in a few hundred people at least just on his own, let alone with Dbridge and Instra:mental playing and the night being part of the club autonomic tour (some of the best and most forward thinking 170 in years).

To me its a matter of timing, it seems the vast majority of people who started listening to dubstep in late 08 - present will be into the circus records type thing, whereas before that threshold, the more sub-low orientated styles are perfered (obviously this is a general case). Birmingham only took off with dubstep around this time period, so its just gone completely down that route to the point where the other side of the spectrum is so under represented and under supported its unbelievable! Nights that even a year ago would get a decent turn out just die now.

I still love 'dubstep' but im increasingly finding it hard to go to a night that I enjoy from start to finish like I used to. Even DMZ 5th birthday was somewhat disappointing (other than DMZ & Loefah and last bit of Pinch and Distance that i caught) I guess its just bad luck that the most popular style of dubstep is a style that i dont like to listen to.

[wayoftheworld]

Dont give up on the scene just because your geting bored of this. Go check out some other artist..plenty more to choose from.

Benga and Skream are 2 of the main pioneers of this sound we all call dubstep. Without them none of this may of been possible. They pioneered the original and they pionnered the new so a massive big up to them.

im just fed up with being associated with all this "wobblestep".

not trying to be a dick man but dont let the association worry you too much. that's not what it's about. if you're still in touch with tunes that move you on some level, then what's the problem? trends will fade.

[NilsFG]

Story about night with distance, dbridge & instra:mental flopping

That's just sad! The venue with datsik should've been deadout

slightly unrelated, but i think its interesting how u had them hard body riddims like 0800 dub and memories (skream remix) on skins about 3 years ago. so there was some sick stuff being presented to the mainstream back then for example, but the music has ended up going down the wrong alley non the less

oh well

This!

Btw the girl speaking in the intro of Backwards by Skream (medi-14) is a sample took from that same episode 0800 dub and ancient memories got played in.

[wooda916]

Story about night with distance, dbridge & instra:mental flopping

That's just sad! The venue with datsik should've been deadout

Im not bothered about the other night getting a good turn out, fair play to Dave and Carlos who organised the night, im pleased it went well for them, its just there should be enough people (like me) who would much prefer to go to see Distance (and dbridge, intra:mental and SP) than Datsik to get a decent turnout at both nights.

[concept_]

Dubstep is deadout in 2010.

It's all about coatstep. Lager in hand, wifi dongle around neck, no dancing allowed. Not Suitable For Work. Rowdy boogaloo crew this one you. reh reh reh

Flying Lotus was heavy tho.

Strictly Jazz and Classical as soon as I hit 30.



xx

[slushpup]

a big thing to remember is that a lot of people just plain out don't have subwoofers... they might hear some Pangaea and look right by it because it just doesn't make sense over laptop speakers. then they hear some heavy shit and the main riddims of the song can be heard...at least this can be said for much of the university kids that i know.

i have my close 'dubstep' friends who know whats up, we all already had an appreciation for music beforehand, all had systems to appropriately hear music over (that being said some of them still love the hard shit, taste still plays a part, but they love it all). loads of my other good friends aren't the same way. one of my good friends heard sweet shop and she loved it, and she could play it over he computer at her place and enjoy it. a month later or so she says she's getting sick of how angry and dark dubstep is and i kinda chuckled, showed her a bit of silkie and she loved it.

its tough getting people to like bass music when they cant hear tha bass

[noam]

Dont give up on the scene just because your geting bored of this. Go check out some other artist..plenty more to choose from.

Benga and Skream are 2 of the main pioneers of this sound we all call dubstep. Without them none of this may of been possible. They pioneered the original and they pionnered the new so a massive big up to them.

I ofcourse cannot deny Skream and Benga were instrumental in getting me so into this scene but i find myself listening more to their older stuff. The new keysound release is probably a very good example, huge release and an immediate bag for me.

second both these

skream still does it, pretty much across all genres, some of his stuff i dont like cos i just dont like the style, but that tune Sweetz was an immediate buy for me, and just reinforces even more how good he is.

the one thing i kinda worry about is that knowing how the 'scene' is changing, and from experiences my friends have, when i finally start playing out, im not going to want to play the sort of tunes that appeals to the popular crowd that much... i could, and i will have some of the tunes that you could drop in a properly commercial set (the 'when i look at you''s and the joker tunes etc.)

i guess what im trying to say is that its a shame that the popularity isn't directed at more angles of the music, as some dj's show you can drop bangers, and bate commercial tunes and mix them with the more obscure tunes. this is often not the case, and it seems some crowds genuinely dont feel anything but the wall of sound bullcrap that they hear at every rave they go to.

its just a bit of a shame thats all, if anything i was surprised by this board tho since ive started actually posting here, about the love that the less commercially viable music has, if anything thats a good sign!