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Reason Master classes

Post by nitz » Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:03 pm

Hello people, :) How everything doing.

I stumbled across a idea a few days ago... You know how there are lots of master classes of well known producer who goes through one of their tracks or something along them lines, like rusko one (please leave out any stigma about him on this thread !)

So.. i have seen quite a few of them any not much of them are on reason? Now, i know there's alot of peeps that don't like reason, or cant use it the way they want it too, but thats not what am trying to get at.

I think there we should start up Reason master classes, i mean for mastering purposes, because am sure many of you will agree that reason is great at flexibility and you can even get great mixdown out of it, but when it comes to the mastering stage am sure many people have different ways of mastering in reason. As Reason is the only program thats kind of works different to other in the sense that it emulates hardware unit and does not work with audio like other, so the mastering stage is very different to as well. So i think it would be great to start up a mastering masterclasses for reason, with something along the lines of video tut or writen tut. Just like we have Q&A from producer, but this can be for the purposes of mastering solely in reason.

I know there quite a few heads out there that just reason solely for everything... so it would be great to get in touch and have a production chat :e:

What do you think?
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Re: Reason Master classes

Post by deadly_habit » Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:16 pm

nitz wrote:Hello people, :) How everything doing.

I stumbled across a idea a few days ago... You know how there are lots of master classes of well known producer who goes through one of their tracks or something along them lines, like rusko one (please leave out any stigma about him on this thread !)

So.. i have seen quite a few of them any not much of them are on reason? Now, i know there's alot of peeps that don't like reason, or cant use it the way they want it too, but thats not what am trying to get at.

I think there we should start up Reason master classes, i mean for mastering purposes, because am sure many of you will agree that reason is great at flexibility and you can even get great mixdown out of it, but when it comes to the mastering stage am sure many people have different ways of mastering in reason. As Reason is the only program thats kind of works different to other in the sense that it emulates hardware unit and does not work with audio like other, so the mastering stage is very different to as well. So i think it would be great to start up a mastering masterclasses for reason, with something along the lines of video tut or writen tut. Just like we have Q&A from producer, but this can be for the purposes of mastering solely in reason.

I know there quite a few heads out there that just reason solely for everything... so it would be great to get in touch and have a production chat :e:

What do you think?
most people using reason rewire it into another app to mixdown or master

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Re: Reason Master classes

Post by nitz » Fri Mar 19, 2010 8:55 pm

^^
Yeah but what i was trying to get at was, the people who solely just use reason... there are a few out there, don't be shy say hello :t:
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Re: Reason Master classes

Post by Sinisterbeats » Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:16 pm

:t: Reason only for me, sounds like a good idea

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Post by nitz » Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:19 pm

Sinisterbeats wrote::t: Reason only for me, sounds like a good idea
There we go...!
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Re: Reason Master classes

Post by Freshman » Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:24 pm

100% reason user here!
I'm not an expert on the topic, but definately up for sharing tips & tricks..
what do you have in mind?

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Re: Reason Master classes

Post by nitz » Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:30 pm

Freshman wrote:100% reason user here!
I'm not an expert on the topic, but definately up for sharing tips & tricks..
what do you have in mind?
Contact some of the peeps, and some of the well known producer that use reason that are on this forum, and have debate about this... and maybe some video/text tut.
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Re: Reason Master classes

Post by JFK » Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:51 pm

nitz wrote:
Freshman wrote:100% reason user here!
I'm not an expert on the topic, but definately up for sharing tips & tricks..
what do you have in mind?
Contact some of the peeps, and some of the well known producer that use reason that are on this forum, and have debate about this... and maybe some video/text tut.
You should hit up the Koan Sound lads. They use Reason. Nice boys too.

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Post by dj nation » Sat Mar 20, 2010 2:01 am

I use reason now aswell, and the mastering i really cant get my head round at all. just turns out whack :z:
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Re: Reason Master classes

Post by nitz » Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:12 pm

Any one...? come on peeps!
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Re: Reason Master classes

Post by Sinisterbeats » Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:24 am

Well for a start I turn all the faders on the mixer to 70 and the master to 80 so that I know Iv got plenty of headroom. Only just started doin this really but it has really improved the sound I get before I even get to mastering. Basically the fundamentals of getting a good mixdown but Iv been lazy in the past with it and am now appreciating the benefits. I then try and leave the faders on the mixer alone and if something needs making louder or quieter I turn up the volume on the instrument itself.

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Re: Reason Master classes

Post by whineo » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:16 pm

this is worth a read if you solely use reason....
Nu tone producer Q&A
http://www.dogsonacid.com/showthread.ph ... did=540472

personally I think the time you spend reading should be spent getting yourself accustomed with something that actually supports audio and vsts

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Re: Reason Master classes

Post by Ongelegen » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:23 pm

100% Reason + Record user here:

I remember Computer Music having a masterclass from someone who used reason, will report back later.

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Re: Reason Master classes

Post by nitz » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:16 pm

I think people have read this wrong, or i have wrote it in the wrong way...

This is not generally about me, its not talking about "I" want to learn to master on reason :lol: :lol:
Far from it, you may have read wrong if you have this view. (or i have just wrote it in a bad way)

I was generally for the DSF member who are on reason, and thought it would be cool idea to start up.
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Re: Reason Master classes

Post by nitz » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:21 pm

whineo wrote:this is worth a read if you solely use reason....
Nu tone producer Q&A
http://www.dogsonacid.com/showthread.ph ... did=540472

personally I think the time you spend reading should be spent getting yourself accustomed with something that actually supports audio and vsts
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Re: Reason Master classes

Post by nitz » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:23 pm

Sinisterbeats wrote:Well for a start I turn all the faders on the mixer to 70 and the master to 80 so that I know Iv got plenty of headroom. Only just started doin this really but it has really improved the sound I get before I even get to mastering. Basically the fundamentals of getting a good mixdown but Iv been lazy in the past with it and am now appreciating the benefits. I then try and leave the faders on the mixer alone and if something needs making louder or quieter I turn up the volume on the instrument itself.
I would advice you not to do that, as it could wreck you gain structure.
Rather to have the channel level low in the first place, make a default track with the channel set half way, then you will never face this problem again.
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Re: Reason Master classes

Post by Sinisterbeats » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:04 pm

nitz wrote:
Sinisterbeats wrote:Well for a start I turn all the faders on the mixer to 70 and the master to 80 so that I know Iv got plenty of headroom. Only just started doin this really but it has really improved the sound I get before I even get to mastering. Basically the fundamentals of getting a good mixdown but Iv been lazy in the past with it and am now appreciating the benefits. I then try and leave the faders on the mixer alone and if something needs making louder or quieter I turn up the volume on the instrument itself.
I would advice you not to do that, as it could wreck you gain structure.
Rather to have the channel level low in the first place, make a default track with the channel set half way, then you will never face this problem again.
Not sure I understand you, thats what I said I do. What problem are you referring to? Could you describe your default rack eg. how you set faders, use of mastering suite etc. :e:

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Re: Reason Master classes

Post by nitz » Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:00 pm

Sinisterbeats wrote:
nitz wrote:
Sinisterbeats wrote:Well for a start I turn all the faders on the mixer to 70 and the master to 80 so that I know Iv got plenty of headroom. Only just started doin this really but it has really improved the sound I get before I even get to mastering. Basically the fundamentals of getting a good mixdown but Iv been lazy in the past with it and am now appreciating the benefits. I then try and leave the faders on the mixer alone and if something needs making louder or quieter I turn up the volume on the instrument itself.
I would advice you not to do that, as it could wreck you gain structure.
Rather to have the channel level low in the first place, make a default track with the channel set half way, then you will never face this problem again.
Not sure I understand you, thats what I said I do. What problem are you referring to? Could you describe your default rack eg. how you set faders, use of mastering suite etc. :e:
You said "Well for a start I turn all the faders on the mixer to 70" referring that after you have mixed down your tune, and then when you about to go into the mastering stage you turn down each channel, which is what i meant by it would wreck you gain structure, specially if you got stuff like group channels :|

You want to make a default reason file which a mix with the channels set to about half way on each channel, hence you will now not face the problem of head room, to need to fight will the levels no more.

My default rack starts with the hardwire unit of course (you output) then a maximizer, which is used a DB checker before it hits the output and a limiting tool, then a freq spec using vocoder's, then a mastering suite, which is off. Among 1/2 processes, its something along them lines, which processors it not always used, it all depends of the track it self.
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Re: Reason Master classes

Post by Sinisterbeats » Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:05 pm

sorry I did mean before I even start writing the track ill turn the faders down. I might start using the freq analyser with vocoders, I made the patch but could do with implementing it into my default rack.

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Re: Reason Master classes

Post by Rekah » Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:12 pm

whineo wrote:this is worth a read if you solely use reason....
Nu tone producer Q&A
http://www.dogsonacid.com/showthread.ph ... did=540472

personally I think the time you spend reading should be spent getting yourself accustomed with something that actually supports audio and vsts



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