Judging your own tunes....

[deadcell]

Like after say youve got your tune to how you want it to sound and anything further is just tweaks, is it me or are there others out there that just enter this horrible world of like, neutral blind spot. like as if you dont have an opinion on it any more. like still obsessed with listening to it over and over and over so much that your brain just starts like... rejecting it.

im not good at with words or explaning myself but hopefully you know what i mean ? maybe its just me i dont know.

its like i only like the sound of it when it doesnt sound right, then oince everything clicks into place, my passion just leaves . then i start thinking, should i change it back, like is the wrong way it sounded, from before actually the right way? i always end not changing it back though like as if it would be some type of one stop forward 2 steps back kind of deal


the only parallel i can think of is like - when ur mixin, and u get ur tunes locked down solidly, what then ? what happens then ? like some sort of mental block, i have a mini apiphany mental breakdown of just not knowing wtf to do, hahahha. well apart from eq/throwing a third deck into it. i guess my next production goal is learning how to push myself past thise little mental episodes. lol

[iambullet]

I think I know what you're talking about but this usually happens when I listen to the same bars 3 hours straight, I start to like my weird sounding synths. Just call it a day, listen to it when your ears are fresh and you will go like "wtf is this shit". Your ears get used to about anything remotely melodic so fuck them. Not literally of course.

[Astral]

Judging my own tunes is remarkably easy for me.

I fucking hate them all.

[deadcell]

yeah waiting is the key thing. im just too giddy and always feel like getting back on FL and then not actually really hardly changing anything... lol i dont like waiting, all i have to space my time with is sleep, wakning.... and... sleep. or decks...but that doesnt exactly warm down my ears....

Judging my own tunes is remarkably easy for me.

I fucking hate them all.

hahhha. mate same lol

[Sharmaji]

interesting!

Everyone deals w/ this stuff in their own ways-- some not at all, some fully down to business. it's done? let's shop it around, find it a home, get some bills.

It sounds to me like yr at a point where you can just ENJOY YOUR OWN TUNE . seriously. pat yrself on the back, job well done.

then see if other folks dig it.

see how it sounds at an event, etc, etc, etc. take it as far as you'd like!

[creeptown]

I am exactly the same and i think most people are, i make something think it is really good then after a while i cant stand it and dont even know if i can call it good anymore... Same goes with mixing if you are mixing a set and trying to think of songs to play, once you have finished it and are ready to play it out you wonder, does anyone even like these songs? I have a gig tommorrow night and thats the feeling im having at this moment. Like they said above i think you should trust your first instinct not your ears, they just get too used to the same sound and get bored of it.

[spastik]

Im dealing with this right now. I keep making minor tweaks to the eq's and levels, and then changing keys on the synths. Then do I even like the track after all that work.

Ive also noticed that when I start a track at midnight or 1 in the morning and it's sounding great, I head to bed... wake up in the morning and go "wtf was i thinking?"

[creeptown]

I really think everyone shares this problem, i wonder what the proffessional producers are like with it?? anyone?

[Astral]

I really think everyone shares this problem, i wonder what the proffessional producers are like with it?? anyone?

You hear of musicians all the time scrapping "whole albums", I guess if you're not satisfied, you're not satisfied .

[ketamine]

Judging my own tunes is remarkably easy for me.

I fucking hate them all.

me too

[ninjadog]

Dude I hear you. I get so sick of production sometimes, sick of listening to the same tune over and over, sick of building the track the same way even tho I try and do it differently, sick of looking at the Reason rack and getting nowhere. At the same time I can take a song I am sick of change the sounds a bit and I am stoked all over again.
It's been a long time since I have been proud of a song tho. I guess it's because when your a noob and make something listenable it's a big deal. As you learn more rules and techniques and the "right" way of doing things slowly but surely the creativity kind of goes down and the professionalism goes up or something like that. Kind of hard to put into words, but I end up scraping patterns all the time because I feel it sucks while my friends tell me it was good...I feel like their just saying that.
These days I find it difficult to make real song with substance, I guess I am my own toughest critic.

[lp]

Very difficult to judge your own tunes I think, I like a lot of my new tunes that I've been making but it gets to a point where after hearing it so many times I think wait a minute... is this too repetative? are there enough edits? does that bass sound right anymore? I swear it used to have groove... is my groove still there?? The worst feeling I get is that I always think I can add more or I don't like a specific sample and will go back in on it and fraf around for an hour then at the end of it ill just revert back to what I had.

I recon the only way round it is just telling yourself its finished. Now for final mixdown, master then move on to somethign else.

[Xavy]

My friend summarized this kind of thing quite aptly.

He said it's difficult to seperate the feeling 'wow I've actually made something' from 'wow this is actually good.'

[Recessive Trait]

i love making music and i love listening to m music. indeed, it is what i listen to the most. i'm my own biggest fan, and i'm not afraid to tell myself when a song is shit, even after working on it for a week.

[jaydot]

I'll like something immensely that I've made, then be indifferent two days later to it, then hate it withing a week,

[FSTZ]

what I do is..

get to a stopping point...

walk away.. get some sleep

revisit the project.. if it is still good in your opinion (other people's too)

keep working on it

if it sucks...

move on

[jaydot]

I don't see. I try and finish the track in one or two sittings which is the wrong way to go about it.

[beerz]

i think its down to just knowing what sounds good and what doesn't.

It's a technique that is learnt just like you learn how to produce

It's easy to do this with other people's tunes, but its differnet for your own.

[futures_untold]

FSTZ does what I recommend.

1> Make your tune.

2> Leave it an entire week without listening to it. Unless the melody is particularly catchy, you will have copmpletely forgotten how it sounds when you return to it a week later.

3> With fresh ears, you'll be able to pinpoint exactly what needs working upon in your first listen.

4> Listen to it once and write down your observations. From the second play onwards, your ears will become reacquainted with the tune. So after that first listen, switch it off until you have written all your remarks regarding the tune.

5> With a written list of things to wrok on, you'll be able to make quick progress towards a finished track.

6> Repeat the process a second time, and you will hopefully find you have a finished track which you are happy with!

[jaydot]

FSTZ does what I recommend.

1> Make your tune.

2> Leave it an entire week without listening to it. Unless the melody is particularly catchy, you will have copmpletely forgotten how it sounds when you return to it a week later.

3> With fresh ears, you'll be able to pinpoint exactly what needs working upon in your first listen.

4> Listen to it once and write down your observations. From the second play onwards, your ears will become reacquainted with the tune. So after that first listen, switch it off until you have written all your remarks regarding the tune.

5> With a written list of things to wrok on, you'll be able to make quick progress towards a finished track.

6> Repeat the process a second time, and you will hopefully find you have a finished track which you are happy with!

This is probably a good way to go about it. But as I am still learning sort of I often release the WIP of the track so as to get feedback on where to improve as opposed to putting out a tune which I think will be finished which will need to be redone anyway.