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How to get LFO Wobble with any vst. WITHOUT mod matrix aswel

Post by Moxxiedubstep » Thu May 20, 2010 11:49 am

Ive noticed alot of members are having problems with LFO wobbles and not really getting clear answers.
So, Here is a free plugin i feel will help out ALOT of people starting out with Dubstep wobble basses aswell as some of you professionals.

I use a plugin called LFO Filter V2. It basically can make ANY vsti into a wobble type sound. I use it alot because some vsts i have make really complex sounds but dont have a mod matrix, or the LFO filter cant be sync'd . Here the link to download it:

http://blechturmstudios.at/index.php?op ... &Itemid=58

Sorry the first link was down. This is directly from the maker.

I hope this will help everyone out in the dubstep community.

All the parameters of the plug in accepts automation aswell. :)

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Re: How to get LFO Wobble with any vst. WITHOUT mod matrix aswel

Post by tripwire22 » Thu May 20, 2010 12:47 pm

thanks but dubstep needs less wobble if you ask me

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Re: How to get LFO Wobble with any vst. WITHOUT mod matrix aswel

Post by Moxxiedubstep » Thu May 20, 2010 12:51 pm

tripwire22 wrote:thanks but dubstep needs less wobble if you ask me
Each its own. It isnt as much as it doesnt need wobble , its need more innovation. Im sure this bit will help people stray from the conventional wobble sound.

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Re: How to get LFO Wobble with any vst. WITHOUT mod matrix aswel

Post by legend4ry » Thu May 20, 2010 1:13 pm

Umm

You can do this buy automating an LP filter's frequency knob, you know thats ALL wobble is, right?

The frequency of the filter going up and down, up and down.

Pointless VST.


EDIT: and if you're using FL, there is pre-generated waveforms what are made for automation create one and then right click . (in this instance, your filters frequency knob) then click link to controller, find the dropdown bottom and click the waveform's name.
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Re: How to get LFO Wobble with any vst. WITHOUT mod matrix aswel

Post by Moxxiedubstep » Thu May 20, 2010 1:23 pm

legend4ry wrote:Umm

You can do this buy automating an LP filter's frequency knob, you know thats ALL wobble is, right?

The frequency of the filter going up and down, up and down.

Pointless VST.


EDIT: and if you're using FL, there is pre-generated waveforms what are made for automation create one and then right click . (in this instance, your filters frequency knob) then click link to controller, find the dropdown bottom and click the waveform's name.
If the LP filter is being automated, Then how would you automate the rate of the LP/LFO in your method, when the LP filter is fixed to an automation?
Not been an arse. But id like you to explain it to me.

Youd think if that was the best option, then developers would never include LFO filters with rates on their vsti's .
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Re: How to get LFO Wobble with any vst. WITHOUT mod matrix aswel

Post by legend4ry » Thu May 20, 2010 1:32 pm

Moxxiedubstep wrote:
legend4ry wrote:Umm

You can do this buy automating an LP filter's frequency knob, you know thats ALL wobble is, right?

The frequency of the filter going up and down, up and down.

Pointless VST.


EDIT: and if you're using FL, there is pre-generated waveforms what are made for automation create one and then right click . (in this instance, your filters frequency knob) then click link to controller, find the dropdown bottom and click the waveform's name.

Pointless Reply.
Well not really, since that vst probably uses more CPU than automation and can be done with just a native filter (again, probably takes up less CPU) and can be unique...

It was my opinion, you should respect that.
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Post by Moxxiedubstep » Thu May 20, 2010 1:38 pm

I do respect your opinion and apollogize for that remark. But explain how that would work, when automating LFO rates?? . the vst takes up not even enough cpu to make the slightest diffrence. with auto disable off cpu was still at 0.3 - 0.8% . that being said with no other vsti's up.

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Re: How to get LFO Wobble with any vst. WITHOUT mod matrix aswel

Post by legend4ry » Thu May 20, 2010 1:44 pm

Moxxiedubstep wrote:I do respect your opinion and apollogize for that remark. But explain how that would work, when automating LFO rates?? . the vst takes up not even enough cpu to make the slightest diffrence. with auto disable off cpu was still at 0.3 - 0.8% . that being said with no other vsti's up.

Well, draw a triangle wave on your DAW..if you have your qauntising to around 1/4 draw it going over 4 bars. then half it, half it, then half it, then half it... keep going till you have 4 even triangles a bar, there you have it... your own LFO "vst" ;)

Screenshot of what I mean.


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Since you're working in automation you can make the impact better or smaller by just making the triangles peak smaller / bigger /. increase the size of the valleys, change the waveform to scope up to jitter on in a saw-wave shape down, etc,etc for weird wobble every now and again and this, is just a cleaner, manual way of doin' wobbles.
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Re: How to get LFO Wobble with any vst. WITHOUT mod matrix aswel

Post by Moxxiedubstep » Thu May 20, 2010 1:50 pm

legend4ry wrote:
Moxxiedubstep wrote:I do respect your opinion and apollogize for that remark. But explain how that would work, when automating LFO rates?? . the vst takes up not even enough cpu to make the slightest diffrence. with auto disable off cpu was still at 0.3 - 0.8% . that being said with no other vsti's up.

Well, draw a triangle wave on your DAW..if you have your qauntising to around 1/4 draw it going over 4 bars. then half it, half it, then half it, then half it... keep going till you have 4 even triangles a bar, there you have it... your own LFO "vst" ;)

Screenshot of what I mean.


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Since you're working in automation you can make the impact better or smaller by just making the triangles peak smaller / bigger /. increase the size of the valleys for weird wobble every now and again and this, is just a cleaner, manual way of doin' wobbles.


See , that is more of a "harsh" drop and raise compared to a sine, I use triangle waves with Massive sometimes. Its useful in filthy dubstep. But an interesting take on LFO modulation with FL . If I still used FL i would try it.

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Re: How to get LFO Wobble with any vst. WITHOUT mod matrix aswel

Post by legend4ry » Thu May 20, 2010 1:53 pm

Moxxiedubstep wrote:
legend4ry wrote:
Moxxiedubstep wrote:I do respect your opinion and apollogize for that remark. But explain how that would work, when automating LFO rates?? . the vst takes up not even enough cpu to make the slightest diffrence. with auto disable off cpu was still at 0.3 - 0.8% . that being said with no other vsti's up.

Well, draw a triangle wave on your DAW..if you have your qauntising to around 1/4 draw it going over 4 bars. then half it, half it, then half it, then half it... keep going till you have 4 even triangles a bar, there you have it... your own LFO "vst" ;)

Screenshot of what I mean.


Image



Since you're working in automation you can make the impact better or smaller by just making the triangles peak smaller / bigger /. increase the size of the valleys for weird wobble every now and again and this, is just a cleaner, manual way of doin' wobbles.


See , that is more of a "harsh" drop and raise compared to a sine, I use triangle waves with Massive sometimes. Its useful in filthy dubstep. But an interesting take on LFO modulation with FL . If I still used FL i would try it.

I used a triangle as an example, you can this in any DAW but drawing and thus, having the choice create custom shapes, random lfo rates and such, this is what I am trying to explain, my justification why I think VSTs like this are limiting and getting people into bad habits what will eventually make their tracks tiresome (who really wants to listen to 1/* number rates all the time?)

I know a lot of filth producers who use the draw-in technique and don't automate LFO-rates.

Then again, what do I know, I haven't made a filth/wobble track in 2-3 years.
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Post by Brisance » Thu May 20, 2010 1:53 pm

no need for automation even in FL:
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Post by boyswanstep » Thu May 20, 2010 1:54 pm

Thanks for the link, vst's with lfo/cutoff syncs are useful - especially for ableton where you cant automate to an lfo.

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Post by Moxxiedubstep » Thu May 20, 2010 2:12 pm

boyswanstep wrote:Thanks for the link, vst's with lfo/cutoff syncs are useful - especially for ableton where you cant automate to an lfo.
See Legend,It helped someone out . So :P . haha :)

not everyone uses Fl :/

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Re: How to get LFO Wobble with any vst. WITHOUT mod matrix aswel

Post by yamaz » Thu May 20, 2010 5:23 pm

boyswanstep wrote:Thanks for the link, vst's with lfo/cutoff syncs are useful - especially for ableton where you cant automate to an lfo.
What do you mean here? Abletn allows you to macro assign and automate any knob from any vst, improvement made in version 8. If your using any native programs like samplers, they should all have filters built in able to be automated as well....
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Post by contakt321 » Thu May 20, 2010 5:41 pm

yamaz wrote:
boyswanstep wrote:Thanks for the link, vst's with lfo/cutoff syncs are useful - especially for ableton where you cant automate to an lfo.
What do you mean here? Abletn allows you to macro assign and automate any knob from any vst, improvement made in version 8. If your using any native programs like samplers, they should all have filters built in able to be automated as well....
+1, You can automate anything in Ableton, or use Ableton's built in 'AutoFilter' which also has an LFO.

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Post by rubiconguava » Thu May 20, 2010 5:43 pm

could be useful, i draw in mainly thats not to say i never use lfos, handy for quick fix things.

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Post by boyswanstep » Thu May 20, 2010 6:00 pm

contakt321 wrote:
yamaz wrote:
boyswanstep wrote:Thanks for the link, vst's with lfo/cutoff syncs are useful - especially for ableton where you cant automate to an lfo.
What do you mean here? Abletn allows you to macro assign and automate any knob from any vst, improvement made in version 8. If your using any native programs like samplers, they should all have filters built in able to be automated as well....
+1, You can automate anything in Ableton, or use Ableton's built in 'AutoFilter' which also has an LFO.

yeah i know you can automate everything, but you cant set an lfo to each parameter? like i know you can specifically do this in fl studio, but its not possible in ableton without external plugins

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Post by tecshaun » Sat May 28, 2011 12:47 am

legend4ry wrote:Umm

You can do this buy automating an LP filter's frequency knob, you know thats ALL wobble is, right?

The frequency of the filter going up and down, up and down.

Pointless VST.
I don't really see it being pointless at all and use it pretty often because...

1) I don't want to sit there and draw automation lines for sine / saw / triangle / whatever. Not to mention I don't know how I would even go about drawing a perfect sine in ableton.
2) do you keep drawing new automation for different pseudo lfo speeds? fuck that...
3) what if you want to apply an lfo to a cutoff of an audio sample. I have tons of resampled sounds saved and if I wanted to add a little texture / wobble it / whatever this tool is great for that.
4) What if your lfo's or your filters are already being used in your vst?

There's plenty of reasons to use it...

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