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Re: i have a problem

Post by Sharmaji » Sat May 22, 2010 4:32 pm

the interwebs are nice, but they're not real. Get out there and DJ yr tunes against others. do it in front of people. meet other folks in real life.

This is a great supporting network, but it's no replacement for the real thing. EDM is, nearly by definition (that pesky word "dance"), a social activity.
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Re: i have a problem

Post by nowaysj » Sat May 22, 2010 10:19 pm

That ^ advice, while I don't disagree with it, is less applicable to people like OP who live in cultural wastelands.

NO OFFENSE Sacapotato! I live in an equally desolate landscape.

Coming on here is like a dream, you can find so many people into the same shit as you, then you step outside your house and the only intellectually adventurous person you meet is willing to listen to top 41 rather than just top 40.
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Re: i have a problem

Post by shaneynclan » Sun May 23, 2010 9:23 am

all interesting replies.
no offense taken to any of the posts here.
i guess it's normal to get discouraged, and i should probably go outside more.
i must ponder all of your posts now.

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Re: i have a problem

Post by deadly_habit » Sun May 23, 2010 9:24 am

Sharmaji wrote:the interwebs are nice, but they're not real. Get out there and DJ yr tunes against others. do it in front of people. meet other folks in real life.

This is a great supporting network, but it's no replacement for the real thing. EDM is, nearly by definition (that pesky word "dance"), a social activity.
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Re: i have a problem

Post by Bledbox » Sun May 23, 2010 10:06 am

Hmm I'm kind of in a similar situation, never know what to think of my own tracks and sometimes doubt my production skill. I don't get much feedback from soundcloud but that doesn't bother me too much but that could be because I only set mine up not long ago. Seriously though, some of the stuff I've read on here is a great way to spread your music. Youtube, facebook, myspace, all the social networking, adding DJ's and hitting them up, it works, you get friendly with them and you see the benefits!

I think my main problem is that I lose inspiration quickly and so many of my songs end up in demo stages and I don't return to them and then to add to that (don't want to blame everything on my hardware, buuuut...) I work on some shitty pc world pc which doesnt have enough ram to be able to run any projects when they get past the initial stages of starting a tune. And to top it allll off, just yesterday my computer has now decided to crash everytime I open cubase, which has really pissed me off because its fucked up a few oppurtunities I had coming up in the next week or so. So I think Bledbox may be on a hiatus for a while, but keep at everything you do, put your all into it, and youll get the best out of it :D

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Re: i have a problem

Post by nowaysj » Sun May 23, 2010 10:47 am

I don't know what kind of music you make, but if you will be constrained indefinitely by shitty computers, reason is very resource light relative to the other big boys.
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Re: i have a problem

Post by deadly_habit » Sun May 23, 2010 10:53 am

siding with nowayj
a true musician will never blame his tools, there is always a workaround or creative way to make shit work

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Re: i have a problem

Post by Bledbox » Sun May 23, 2010 11:11 am

deadly habit wrote:siding with nowayj
a true musician will never blame his tools, there is always a workaround or creative way to make shit work
yeh I know and thats why I didnt want to say it, but I know that I'm the only one who can anything about it. My workaround is gonna be using hardware until I get a new computer, gonna bust out the synths and get on the electribe and make some riddims :)

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Re: i have a problem

Post by deadly_habit » Sun May 23, 2010 11:41 am

Bledbox wrote:
deadly habit wrote:siding with nowayj
a true musician will never blame his tools, there is always a workaround or creative way to make shit work
yeh I know and thats why I didnt want to say it, but I know that I'm the only one who can anything about it. My workaround is gonna be using hardware until I get a new computer, gonna bust out the synths and get on the electribe and make some riddims :)
heh over the years i've surrounded myself with gear etc
just wanna say having a shit comp etc or old soft does not limit a true musician

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Re: i have a problem

Post by Basic A » Sun May 23, 2010 11:54 am

deadly habit wrote: just wanna say having a shit comp etc or old soft does not limit a true musician
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Post by Bledbox » Sun May 23, 2010 12:45 pm

lol I'm having fun already, I just made that standard borgore 'yoy' sound...with a bass guitar
Been using DAWs so much lately I completely forgot how much I love my gear

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Re: i have a problem

Post by tripaddict » Sun May 23, 2010 3:02 pm

please title your thread properly.

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Re: i have a problem

Post by nowaysj » Sun May 23, 2010 7:33 pm

+1
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Re: i have a problem

Post by tavravlavish » Mon May 24, 2010 4:58 am

tripaddict wrote:please title your thread properly.
haha that was the only reason I looked at this thread, cause I remembered someone making another thread about bad thread titles and I thought, hey there is a bad thread title.

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Re: i have a problem

Post by deadly_habit » Mon May 24, 2010 5:02 am

tavravlavish wrote:
tripaddict wrote:please title your thread properly.
haha that was the only reason I looked at this thread, cause I remembered someone making another thread about bad thread titles and I thought, hey there is a bad thread title.
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Re: i have a problem

Post by JFK » Tue May 25, 2010 9:06 am

nowaysj wrote:To OP:

When making art, you have to make choices, hundreds, thousands, millions of choices, those choices all together, in sum, make the piece. Your maturity as an artist determines how well you make those choices. If your choices are born of self doubt or insecurity the choices are likely to be bad or at least uninteresting. I really believe you have to try as hard as you can to remove yourself from the decision.

Don't make the outcome of the decision determine your self worth.

Once you begin to remove yourself from the decision making process, you can actually hear what is happening in the track, rather than hearing your own desires in the track. You can tell if a bass line is good. You've heard 10,000 good bass lines in your life, you can access those and compare the one you just made with them. You can tell if it's good. You don't need other people to tell you if it is good or bad or has value.

I listened to your sig track, it is pretty cool. It's competent. It's got some good flavor in there. Honestly though, in 5 minutes I will have a hard time distinguishing it from 1000's of other very similar tracks I've heard. Not trying to be negative, I'm trying to be positive. That kind of sound cloud commenting "killer drop dude" stuff is negative, in that it doesn't produce anything, doesn't create anything.

If you write good tracks, people will come to you, you won't have to go around spreading your name, essentially paying (in one currency or another) people to listen to your tracks. Did Skream have to comment on twenty tracks to get one comment back. Did anyone know who the fuck Burial was?

It's all about the quality of the music.

Other people can help you raise the quality of your work. A group of people who make at least similar music or who like some of the similar artists can help bring some objectivity to the analysis of your work. But you need a level of involvement far exceeding 20:1 strokeoffs. Hopefully you can meet some people here that match this criteria. There are a lot of knowledgeable people here, with a bunch of different tastes. Develop some real relationships, and I am sure the positivity will flow.

As to whether you should stop making music. Yes you should. :lol: Would that mean anything? There is no reward for making music.

If you like to make music, you will make music.


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To put all that in perspective, almost every night I go to bed happy with some beat I'm working on, and wake up in dismay at what I hear. I relentlessly get trapped by ego. I haven't made a song in a long time. But I love making music, I can't help but do it. I will continue, whether anyone hears what I make or not. It is totally irrelevant.

I will do what I do because I am what I am.
This is a bit of an old thread but I just wanted to add that these are some of the wisest words you will read on this forum. If the whole thing wasnt so long I'd have it tatooed on my arm :lol:

Big up Noways. Good to see some people are not afraid to think outside the box.

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Re: i have a problem

Post by philly » Tue May 25, 2010 9:16 am

Fuck what other people think man, make music that you love listening to. Be confident in what you're making right know and don't worry. worrying will just hinder your productions .
When you're tracks are the shit ittl be natural to spread them around like 'ppl gotta hear this'.

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Re: i have a problem

Post by nowaysj » Tue May 25, 2010 7:44 pm

JFK wrote:Big up Noways. Good to see some people are not afraid to think outside the box.
:? if this is thinking outside of the box! :lol:
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Re: i have a problem

Post by Dubbel Shot » Sun May 30, 2010 9:00 pm

kaiori breathe wrote:I whore out like fuck, for lack of a better phrase.

I add every single person I see on soundcloud.
The problem I have with this is I like seeing I have a new follower and always try to check out their tunes. Although when I see they're following about 2000 people it puts me off a little bit.
I just try to follow the people I'm actually interested in hearing more from. And if you comment they'll see you anyway and it's nice to have a producer you've been listening to for a while to comment back or get in touch.

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Re: i have a problem

Post by ketamine » Mon May 31, 2010 5:03 am

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