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Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Post by magma » Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:02 pm

hackman wrote:
magma wrote:Will we all be able to settle this either way by 2013 or will that date conveniently change as we approach the time?

I take it you guys are still into the event/awakening happening in just over 2 years time?

It'd be nice if people holding these theories would devise tests to prove their validity or falsehood... that'd make them much easier to believe than clips from Hollywood movies and commercial music videos, however dilligently they've been studied - they're 2nd hand information... art that one person made and an entirely separate person who didn't even know the artist made an inferrence about - that's not really terribly reliable. It still may be true, but it's not evidence.

A sceptical brain asks a theoriser to prove their hypothesis beyond a shadow of a doubt - that's when something becomes "truth" - ... it holds as much for the Big Bang (currently held as "pretty likely", but not necessarily true) as it does for Electricity (Considered magic and worthy of sideshows in 1800, the mundanest of technologies, harnessed and understood by schoolkids in 2000) or Illuminati conspiracies.

2nd hand evidence is far too easy to find to become the basis of anything other than a faith... Christianity never convinced me and, although this sort of thing has come closer (I've even been to Icke shows!), it's still never properly convinced. I wouldn't say either was ludicrous, but I don't choose to believe either.

Surely out of all these amazing brains someone could have devised an experiment? People manage to look into the sky and work out how big and old the Universe is, people can look at the size of mountains and determine the age of the Earth... but nobody can think of a way to prove this one way or another?
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Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Post by Motorway to Roswell » Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:04 pm

Lol at red eye redemption.

Sort yer life out merrrrrrrrrt

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Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Post by WhosZena » Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:07 pm

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Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Post by magma » Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:07 pm

Motorway to Roswell wrote:Lol at red eye redemption.

Sort yer life out merrrrrrrrrt

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:oops:

I've genuinely forgotten the name. My housemate refers to it as Club Med Convention and I'm struggling to not write that!

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Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Post by hackman » Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:14 pm

magma wrote:
hackman wrote:
magma wrote:Will we all be able to settle this either way by 2013 or will that date conveniently change as we approach the time?

I take it you guys are still into the event/awakening happening in just over 2 years time?

It'd be nice if people holding these theories would devise tests to prove their validity or falsehood... that'd make them much easier to believe than clips from Hollywood movies and commercial music videos, however dilligently they've been studied - they're 2nd hand information... art that one person made and an entirely separate person who didn't even know the artist made an inferrence about - that's not really terribly reliable. It still may be true, but it's not evidence.

A sceptical brain asks a theoriser to prove their hypothesis beyond a shadow of a doubt - that's when something becomes "truth" - ... it holds as much for the Big Bang (currently held as "pretty likely", but not necessarily true) as it does for Electricity (Considered magic and worthy of sideshows in 1800, the mundanest of technologies, harnessed and understood by schoolkids in 2000) or Illuminati conspiracies.

2nd hand evidence is far too easy to find to become the basis of anything other than a faith... Christianity never convinced me and, although this sort of thing has come closer (I've even been to Icke shows!), it's still never properly convinced. I wouldn't say either was ludicrous, but I don't choose to believe either.

Surely out of all these amazing brains someone could have devised an experiment? People manage to look into the sky and work out how big and old the Universe is, people can look at the size of mountains and determine the age of the Earth... but nobody can think of a way to prove this one way or another?
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Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Post by Motorway to Roswell » Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:16 pm

magma wrote:
Motorway to Roswell wrote:Lol at red eye redemption.

Sort yer life out merrrrrrrrrt

:kebab:
:oops:

I've genuinely forgotten the name. My housemate refers to it as Club Med Convention and I'm struggling to not write that!

TO THE BADDIES!
:lol:

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Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Post by DRTY » Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:16 pm

Red Dead Redemption looks sick, almost all my fucking mates have it too :q: I'm too broke to get it.

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Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Post by Motorway to Roswell » Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:16 pm

DRTY wrote:Red Dead Redemption looks sick, almost all my fucking mates have it too :q: I'm too broke to get it.
It's not as good as it looks. Played it last night.
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Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Post by magma » Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:42 pm

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DRTY wrote:Red Dead Redemption looks sick, almost all my fucking mates have it too :q: I'm too broke to get it.
It's not as good as it looks. Played it last night.
Don't listen to this man. It's so good, I can't remember its name most of the time.
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Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Post by HamCrescendo » Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:13 pm

edit: actually ill allow it, this argument is going to go anywhere.



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Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Post by BLAHBLAHJAH » Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:34 pm

Ayeeee
All of the details of mind control etc point towards the regular tickings of religions... The only ways 'cults' can survive in a modern day of science, as danrev pointed out, acts of faith based on shards of assembled reailty

Religions evolve and adapt to the times... Take ancient rome, with powerful unforgiving gods that embraced war. Zues--> Je'zues' ha. See how it was contorted when along came jesus, demanding a refining of what people expect of the gods... At a time of an aftermath of chaos (i.e. having huge armies of trained conquerors with a dwindling supply of places to conquer) you introduce peaceful gods into the situation to tame it down. Perhaps these occults involved in conspiracies twigged on the interests of the majority of people that had become mentally immune to the older religions and adapted in a way to haul in more people, ultimately and once more gaining the control of peoples' minds based on the focus that faith brings

That's more 'hidden in view' and rinsed with more potential power... Perhaps they're just trying to max out ways to gain faith... Even the mass interest in 'Kaballah' etc still reeks of manufactured money spinning paths... 'If money is the root of all evil, why's the pope so fucking rich'

Just some loose thoughts... Isn't a free world, just the more you look at opposites the more they look at you ;)
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Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Post by DRTY » Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:48 pm

Motorway to Roswell wrote:
DRTY wrote:Red Dead Redemption looks sick, almost all my fucking mates have it too :q: I'm too broke to get it.
It's not as good as it looks. Played it last night.
O rly?

I might test run it first then..... I have become extremely bored of GTA, every one of them is the bloody same, get to X before X or X. Urgh. I was hoping this would be fresh

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Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Post by limb » Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:01 pm

sorry I skipped the tin foil pages hope I didn't miss anything new,

tin foil topics = thread pages x 10

My thoughts when watching it: MADONNA + CREMASTER CYCLE + THE HOLY MOUNTAIN + post-apocalyptic Russia

The thing was Madonna had sex, GAGA has nothing, her face has the dead empty sexlessness of a pre-pubescent Miss wherever Pagent Queen, I can see why you mistake her for a lizard but I don't see cold blood but the no blood emptiness of a manquin puppet, jerked to the precise pre-proven high sales formula of fashion plus sex and edge and inoffensive retro electro pop (ali ali andro, fernando, I think as well as the illuminati/lizard message there's some serious ABBA referencing for those not BLIND to whats REALLY going ON)

Slightly better than that shit epic with Beyonce but still very very weak, but if you are a 12 year old girl or a gay man I'm sure you'll be pretty happy, and at least it's better than all the other shitty popstars of the minute.

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Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Post by bright maroon » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:56 pm

Hey - I wasn't that stupid at 12...

But my shitty pop music sounded like this...

<iframe src="/forum/video.php?url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQObWW06VAM&feature=related" frameborder="0" style="overflow:hidden; height:auto; max-width:540px"></iframe>

and this..

<iframe src="/forum/video.php?url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMkpRtqJwbw" frameborder="0" style="overflow:hidden; height:auto; max-width:540px"></iframe>

and this..

<iframe src="/forum/video.php?url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPudE8nDog0" frameborder="0" style="overflow:hidden; height:auto; max-width:540px"></iframe>

<iframe src="/forum/video.php?url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NF6Qa84mno" frameborder="0" style="overflow:hidden; height:auto; max-width:540px"></iframe>
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Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Post by bright maroon » Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:03 am

gaga cannot touch this at all...

<iframe src="/forum/video.php?url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tI1_KlO6xI" frameborder="0" style="overflow:hidden; height:auto; max-width:540px"></iframe>
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Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Post by BLAHBLAHJAH » Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:13 am

bright maroon wrote:gaga cannot touch this at all...

<iframe src="/forum/video.php?url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tI1_KlO6xI" frameborder="0" style="overflow:hidden; height:auto; max-width:540px"></iframe>
As if!
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Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Post by bright maroon » Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:23 am

heheh

<iframe src="/forum/video.php?url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbQl14tJIWM" frameborder="0" style="overflow:hidden; height:auto; max-width:540px"></iframe>

How about this one..

<iframe src="/forum/video.php?url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vhebiuuLqU" frameborder="0" style="overflow:hidden; height:auto; max-width:540px"></iframe>
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Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Post by ruckus49 » Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:37 am

danrev wrote:Is it not at all possible that people know that this symbolism shit gets the internet talking about the videos so they stick it in as a way of getting more hits/bit of a joke?

Also, the occult is cool. It has cool imagery. Many artists/directors may use this imagery alot because they think it is cool. The dark fad is the in-thing at the moment. Are there as many videos from 5/6 years ago with the same symbolism? If there is feel free to correct me, but otherwise have the "elite" only just gained control of the music video industry?

You can call me blind or whatever, but I dont buy it. Sorry guys.


thank you. it makes for interesting art using this esoteric symbolism.

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Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Post by deepfiend » Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:16 am

8 pages. DSF, i am dissapoint.

Also, i didn't know Madonna was still making music these days. OH WAIT.
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Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Post by Electric_Head » Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:47 am

I have only ever heard this track on the radio and it just sucks piles.

Reminded me of La Isla Bonnita by Madonna.

Crap

Until you folks started ranting and throwing random presumptions around here I really just thought it was a crap song.
No TV or youtube means no-kacka in by brain.
My ears hear crap, my brain thinks crap. Fullstop .

In essence DSF has created the hype and talk.
So you guys can congratulate yourself for the shameless promotion of "IT"

This brings me onto my next point.
Gaga is no different to lets say madonna in the way she began her career trying to shock.
Hell there was a point where she said she`ll be bigger than God oneday.

Look where she is now? bloody leotard reotard.

Lastly, the comments of svali.
This is just a small excerpt of what she had to say;

"About five years ago, when I left the Illuminati, approximately 1% of the US population was either part of the Illuminati, sympathetic to it, or a victim of Mind Control (and therefore considered useable). While this may not sound like many, imagine 1% of the population highly trained in the use of armaments, crowd control, psychological and behavioral techniques, armed with weapons and linked to paramilitary groups. These people will also be completely dedicated to their cause.

The Illuminati firmly believes that it can easily overcome the other 99% of the population, most of whom are untrained, or poorly trained, such as “weekend hunters.”

That`s a pretty piss-poor effort on the part of the illuminati to rally the troops.
I mean 1% after all these years?
It`s not like it`s been 2 days or 2 years.
We're talking about hundreds of years of indoctrination and control, hundreds of years to create a big ol posse of pipe-wielding ******.
But they managed 1%, that`s 3 070 065.5 people.
How is it that with that many members all focused on the goal of total planetary domination, they still haven`t taken over a small country or at the very least a suburb.
Like smallville.
Illuminativille

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