Resampling in Ableton

[ENNO]

Hi guys, I've done a fair bit of searching here and on the net and have found some good info on resampling. But im still a bit confused how to do it correctly! I understand that i create a bass and then bounce it down. Load it back into ableton and then lash some effects on it...then repeat this cycle again and again until i get my desired dirty sound...

Ive done this and it just seems like a long hauled way of getting a muddy bass sound...??

I know this is what is used the get a big bass sound but I just need a shove in the right direction.

Also, lets say I get a bass im happy with and i want to add a faster lfo or pitch bend to a certain part of it, do I have to write that bass out again and resample it all over again?

Does anyone use ableton and resample? if so would you mind sharing how you go about this?


Thanks very much in advance!!!

[narcissus]

if it sounds muddy...

then my friend, you are doing it wrong. practice is key.

resampling and effecting is kind of an advanced technique which allows for really complex sounds (basslines in your case) with a lot of variety -- which is good after you've already mastered basic synthesis and automation.. but won't get necessarily get you a big/dirty sound if you don't know exactly what you're doing.

if you're bass is muddy, go back to the step before it got muddy, and see where you went wrong. most of all practice practice practice.

[AnalGangstaHo]

Check out the recent thread on here (should be a bit further down the page or on page 2) about splitting bass into hi, mid and low frequencies, see if you fare any better with that...

[ENNO]

Check out the recent thread on here (should be a bit further down the page or on page 2) about splitting bass into hi, mid and low frequencies, see if you fare any better with that...

Thanks for the replies, ha, that was my thread. I gained some useful info from it but didnt really help me with resampling...

[Subside]

There's not much you need to know about resampling besides make a nice bass patch or whatever sound you want then bounce it down and tweak to taste after that the repeat step two and three until you get what you are looking for it's pretty straight forward

[FaithInTheGlitch]

I'm no guru, but it does seem that if you take a bass sound with movement (lfo, whatever) then resample it, and try to add a different lfo you'll have different amounts of movement conflicting with one another. Shouldn't your re sampling be just adding eq, distortion, or effects like that?

[ENNO]

Thanks again everyone....I seem to be getting the hand of what to do and what not to do.

But one question remains...since everything is audio when its resampled i cant change anything withing the bass sound (i.e lfo, pitch, envelopes)

Would i be right in starting with a bass im happy with, making a couple of notes (c1, d1, e1, f1 ect..) and doing different lfo automations on them. Then when im happy with a bass ive got from resampling, chop the audio up and reassemble to how I like? or is there an easier way to do this??

Thanks.

[Subside]

^ That is exactly right all I do usually is make the best bass patch I can then bounce down a real long note then slice and dice etc..

[ENNO]

^ That is exactly right all I do usually is make the best bass patch I can then bounce down a real long note then slice and dice etc..

SAFE

[BLAHBLAHJAH]

Sorry if this is restating the obvious, was a bit unclear from your post if you know the simpler and quicker process for resampling:
Session/clip view
Create Audio track-->'Audio from' select this box and set to 'resampling'
Mute all the tracks you don't require
Hit both the record buttons
Audio track that was created now hosts resampled audio of pre-existing midi tracks

Directly resampled into ableton, use the in/out for feedback, adjust accordingly with a few effects etc... Best start to trail and error is to have the A/B sends set up in a contrasted fashion and use either end as a starting point, based on send % to each parameter

Once it's resampled, try creating a harmony or slightly different version, then re sample
re sample
re re sample
re re re sample
etc

Anyway, once it's resampled, you can always then drag it into a simpler/sampler within a midi channel if you wish to change things
Also in ableton, if you wish to "LFO" up a resampled audio track, search the effect rack for tremolo reverb, far superior!
Again, sorry if that's captain obvious, sometimes shortcuts are discovered far later than hoped for!

[ENNO]

Sorry if this is restating the obvious, was a bit unclear from your post if you know the simpler and quicker process for resampling:
Session/clip view
Create Audio track-->'Audio from' select this box and set to 'resampling'
Mute all the tracks you don't require
Hit both the record buttons
Audio track that was created now hosts resampled audio of pre-existing midi tracks

Directly resampled into ableton, use the in/out for feedback, adjust accordingly with a few effects etc... Best start to trail and error is to have the A/B sends set up in a contrasted fashion and use either end as a starting point, based on send % to each parameter

Once it's resampled, try creating a harmony or slightly different version, then re sample
re sample
re re sample
re re re sample
etc

Anyway, once it's resampled, you can always then drag it into a simpler/sampler within a midi channel if you wish to change things
Also in ableton, if you wish to "LFO" up a resampled audio track, search the effect rack for tremolo reverb, far superior!
Again, sorry if that's captain obvious, sometimes shortcuts are discovered far later than hoped for!

You tha man!!! Much easier way, saves alotta time, I can just keep juggling my sample from audio channel to audio channel...thanks very much for all your help. Seems im on the way