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AtomzxxBomb
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Chop your bass lines!

Post by AtomzxxBomb » Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:51 pm

"4.) Something that I find useful is to bounce the bassline to a .wav file, so that it can be chopped up and put in-sync with other elements of the song; because the majority of the time you will find the first wave of sound in the wobble bassline will will be half the length of the other waves due to attack rates. So the best thing to do is to chop that freak sound off the beginning of the file in your DAW (Logic Pro, Reason, Cubase etc) and start off with the second wave which should be fully formed. This way it will not be too early of late when keeping in sync with other elements such as a second bassline."

This should take away the part of your wobble that is off sync
& thus everything will flow much better

I've searched & searched how to do this
& have not found the correct method
I was hoping , Someone might know this process or understand what it is i , copy & pasted at the top.

Thank you

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Re: Chop your bass lines!

Post by bananafarmer » Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:14 pm

Well it's pretty self explanatory isn't it? I'm using reason 4 at the moment but I assume its similar to the other programs. If you really want to bounce the sound out and cut the front part off then you could download a program like audacity to do this and then sample it back into your DAW, but could be hard to cut it perfectly depending on what your waveform looks like.
I don't see why it would be necessary to do this, the program should have the LFO synced to the tempo already right? Just play around with the settings and make the lfo attack really short.
Another idea to try, if the first wobble sounds different, you could just start your bassline note 1 bar before it actually starts but have it muted and then automate the volume to go from mute to 100% when you want it to play. Hope that makes sense

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Re: Chop your bass lines!

Post by wayoftheworld » Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:27 pm

alright if you still dont get it tell me which daw you are using and ill try to walk you through it.
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Re: Chop your bass lines!

Post by paradigm_x » Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:37 pm

or sort out the attack of the envelope !

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Re: Chop your bass lines!

Post by serox » Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:17 pm

Who wants sync'd wobbles anyway :D
Don’t worry about people stealing an idea. If it’s original, you will have to ram it down their throats.

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Re: Chop your bass lines!

Post by rugged163 » Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:43 pm

recycle man, recycle

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Re: Chop your bass lines!

Post by AtomzxxBomb » Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:25 pm

I guess i dont know how to go about making my wobbles fluid
You could say
Its all failed attempts
To make that
Fluid!!
None , computer made sound
Like you turned the knobs your self
with out having any?

Is this even , viable?


Here is an attempt of mine on Youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOb-zZ2OjI4

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Re: Chop your bass lines!

Post by hurlingdervish » Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:07 pm

sounds like yall are shooting yourself in the foot telling yourself what you are "supposed" to do

at the OP this is one of the MANY uses of resampling. you may find that once you sample the basslines you can swap other similar notes in and out to make it more fresh

i won't go too in depth but yea, there is alot of worth to the chop process, especially if you mix it with other automated things in a back and forth manner

keep trying at it, youll get fantastic things to come from it

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Re: Chop your bass lines!

Post by AtomzxxBomb » Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:17 pm

hurlingdervish wrote:sounds like yall are shooting yourself in the foot telling yourself what you are "supposed" to do

at the OP this is one of the MANY uses of resampling. you may find that once you sample the basslines you can swap other similar notes in and out to make it more fresh

i won't go too in depth but yea, there is alot of worth to the chop process, especially if you mix it with other automated things in a back and forth manner

keep trying at it, youll get fantastic things to come from it
Might you know of a video explaining such things?
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because of my 2 week , new handicap

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Re: Chop your bass lines!

Post by hurlingdervish » Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:06 pm

AtomzxxBomb wrote: Might you know of a video explaining such things?
Because im a mess , at this
because of my 2 week , new handicap
http://vimeo.com/1682698

subsitute glitchy ness for different synth pathes/lfo rates/waveforms etc

whatever you can throw

he does it in audio tracks, but you can do the same thing with a slicer/redrum/drumrack/sampler

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Re: Chop your bass lines!

Post by AtomzxxBomb » Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:29 pm

hurlingdervish wrote:
AtomzxxBomb wrote: Might you know of a video explaining such things?
Because im a mess , at this
because of my 2 week , new handicap
http://vimeo.com/1682698

subsitute glitchy ness for different synth pathes/lfo rates/waveforms etc

whatever you can throw

he does it in audio tracks, but you can do the same thing with a slicer/redrum/drumrack/sampler

Thank you
This was helpful

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Re: Chop your bass lines!

Post by A-List » Sat Jun 12, 2010 4:18 pm

i always always always chop my basslines up.
I normally create a few sounds i like, find a key i want the song in... insert 1bar of each sound on the piano roll... render it to .wav then re-open the wav files in my DAW and mess with it. i feel it gets me better results and better rhythm within the basslines for some reason!
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Re: Chop your bass lines!

Post by deadly_habit » Sat Jun 12, 2010 4:57 pm

sometimes i work in projects pure bassline or pure drums. def a diff way to approach shit and leave you with shit when you are stuck.

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Re: Chop your bass lines!

Post by AtomzxxBomb » Sat Jun 12, 2010 6:23 pm

A-List wrote:i always always always chop my basslines up.
I normally create a few sounds i like, find a key i want the song in... insert 1bar of each sound on the piano roll... render it to .wav then re-open the wav files in my DAW and mess with it. i feel it gets me better results and better rhythm within the basslines for some reason!

This is what i want to know how to do?
Yet , im so new ....
Its all a different lang..

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Re: Chop your bass lines!

Post by A-List » Sat Jun 12, 2010 8:31 pm

what bit dont you understand mate? ill try my best to describe the process i do to create my final basslines if you let me know which part you dont understand!
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Re: Chop your bass lines!

Post by AtomzxxBomb » Sat Jun 12, 2010 8:44 pm

A-List wrote:what bit dont you understand mate? ill try my best to describe the process i do to create my final basslines if you let me know which part you dont understand!

As far as this topic goes

I heard some where , or read some where
that
If you export your bass lines to wav.
& send them to lets say

Audacity?


You then chop off parts of that wobble to get it more fluid?

Is this , how it works?
As far as , exporting your , wav. to chop?

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Re: Chop your bass lines!

Post by wayoftheworld » Sat Jun 12, 2010 8:57 pm

i'll ask again, what program do you use? fruity loops? reason? ableton?

i'll do a quick tutorial for you, give me a minute
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Re: Chop your bass lines!

Post by AtomzxxBomb » Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:00 pm

wayoftheworld wrote:i'll ask again, what program do you use? fruity loops? reason? ableton?

i'll do a quick tutorial for you, give me a minute

I use Fl studios

Quick question , Is Ableton worth looking into?

& for that book , Im just going to buy it
Since the Dl didnt work
Still , Thats what i need!

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Re: Chop your bass lines!

Post by A-List » Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:06 pm

ok.. for what youre wanting to do (if im on the right lines here). This is what i'd do.

1. create your wobble bassline.
2. export it as a wav
3. re-open fl studio... or just open up an audio clip (channels > add one > audio clip)
4. open up the wav file.
5. drag the wav file onto the playlist editor.
6. zoom all the way in.
7. click on the slice option and chop off the first part of the wobble which is out of sync (im guessing itl only be half a wobble)
8. render the bassline again as a wav.

and that should be all
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Re: Chop your bass lines!

Post by nowaysj » Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:18 pm

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