Wobble tunes

Jubz · Post by **Jubz** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:16 pm

There is no problem here, DMZ leeds was perfect proof of that.

two oh one · Post by **two oh one** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:37 pm

I don't get it, either. Dubstep has so much going for it and there's space for everything.

If everything was a fruggin' anthem, it would get sodding boring very quickly. Oakenfoldstep.

You need wobblers as well as everything else. Love it all. I think it's fine where it's at. If things 'progress' too quickly, you'll end up with something akin to the wank state of what they call Trance these days and that would be very sad indeed.

There are plenty of personality tracks out there if you look hard enough and they shine all the more for being different.

Does a rose not look at its best when amongst the leaves?

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:56 pm

two oh one wrote:I don't get it, either. Dubstep has so much going for it and there's space for everything.

If everything was a fruggin' anthem, it would get sodding boring very quickly. Oakenfoldstep.

You need wobblers as well as everything else. Love it all. I think it's fine where it's at. If things 'progress' too quickly, you'll end up with something akin to the wank state of what they call Trance these days and that would be very sad indeed.

There are plenty of personality tracks out there if you look hard enough and they shine all the more for being different.

Does a rose not look at its best when amongst the leaves?

Ah, I wasn't talking Gatecrasher business, I just find that some of the tunes just sort of run into each other and become a bit homogenous after a while - not saying that everyone should have snare rolls and glow stick moments. It's more to do with the elements, if you've got a dark pad, heavy wobble sub and reverbed to fuck snare with little melody then those elements have to do something new to distinguish themselves from similar tunes.

If you put it in drum n bass terms it's the equivalent of reese, amens, rave stabs and atmospherics - nat mean

Doesn't mean they're shit, but if I've got something like that already then I'm unlikely to buy something similar unless it has another element. I enjoy it in the dance, but can't remember it afterwards. I like having something that sticks in my head and a lot of this stuff goes in one ear and out the other.

I agree with you on the Oakenfold thing though...wouarr...shudder

thump rat · Post by **thump rat** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:09 pm

I'm becoming increasingly frustrated at all these threads, although i expect them after all it is a dubstep discussion forum i just want to let the music speak for itself, all this talk is only applying pressure on producers, let them do what they want, your opinions are most valid when your at the record store. If you wanna push a certain side of dubstep then get on the case and start producing, moaning on the internetz aint doing any one any good. Sorry if this sounds like im attacking the maker of this thread, its more an amalgormation of all these threads tipping me on the edge.

And for the record, i loves teh wobblez

two oh one · Post by **two oh one** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:09 pm

Shonky wrote:
two oh one wrote:I don't get it, either. Dubstep has so much going for it and there's space for everything.

If everything was a fruggin' anthem, it would get sodding boring very quickly. Oakenfoldstep.

You need wobblers as well as everything else. Love it all. I think it's fine where it's at. If things 'progress' too quickly, you'll end up with something akin to the wank state of what they call Trance these days and that would be very sad indeed.

There are plenty of personality tracks out there if you look hard enough and they shine all the more for being different.

Does a rose not look at its best when amongst the leaves?

Ah, I wasn't talking Gatecrasher business, I just find that some of the tunes just sort of run into each other and become a bit homogenous after a while - not saying that everyone should have snare rolls and glow stick moments. It's more to do with the elements, if you've got a dark pad, heavy wobble sub and reverbed to fuck snare with little melody then those elements have to do something new to distinguish themselves from similar tunes.

If you put it in drum n bass terms it's the equivalent of reese, amens, rave stabs and atmospherics - nat mean

Doesn't mean they're shit, but if I've got something like that already then I'm unlikely to buy something similar unless it has another element. I enjoy it in the dance, but can't remember it afterwards. I like having something that sticks in my head and a lot of this stuff goes in one ear and out the other.

I agree with you on the Oakenfold thing though...wouarr...shudder

I hear what you're saying, brother man - But do you need to remember every single choon, though?

Agreed, a night of JUST wobble wobble, Massive Snare, Wobble Wobble, Movie Sample, Wobble Wobble, Massive snare, Wobble Wobble, Gun click is a bit poo, unless you're prannying off yer mashin' tits.

...But put a small smattering 'personality' tracks amongst that and it's sounding better already. I think it's the combination that's the key. Pure anything is boring, indeedy. I totally agree, but I do think it's needed. It's the mixing it up that makes it all work for me, personally. You can switch the head off for a majority and just go with it, but then every now and again something comes in and makes you wake up.

It's like when you're making music and you realise the gaps between sounds are just as important as the sounds themselves. Or something.

inspector · Post by **inspector** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:21 pm

I love the wobble just as much as everybody else - in fact I have been listening to wobble music all day. But when I log on to Redeye or Boomkat or whatever to shop for new tunes, I tend to stay away from the wobblers - simply because I have so much of it already.

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:34 pm

I think there's better ways to vary a set than add more "filler" tracks to make the big tunes stand out in a narrow sub-genre though. To be honest, not every tune has to stick in the mind, but a bit more variety in sound would be welcome - it's good to hear the new styles breaking through so that the palettes a bit broader.

When it's done well though it sounds amazing, it's just that I don't think it should be the dominant style (yeah, I know, fucking commie

)

I'm sure in a few years there'll probably be a wobble revival and everyone saying "fuck, all this minimal techno dubstep just sounds the same"

inspector · Post by **inspector** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:39 pm

Maybe it's easier to be a dubstep dj in London where you can actually pack a dubstep night with people who are really into the music. But in Denmark it's necessary to have more variety in a set to keep people interested. I don't think I'd get booked that much if all I played was wobble wobble. Besides that, I was listening to an old Skream mix today thinking "God, he wrote some catchy shit back them". That's not the same as saying that things shouldn't progress - I'm just saying that maybe some producers stopped innovating and are just sticking to a formula now.

d.same · Post by **d.same** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:44 pm

the wobble is a very distinctive feature of dubstep. Can´t imagine the genre without it.

I wake up with : WOOOB WOOOB WOB WOA WOB

and go to bed with : WOB WOB WOAB WOB WOB WOAB

sometimes I take after a short break I can easily take some of the bigger

WOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAOAAAAAOAAAAOAAAAOAAAOAAAOAAOAAOB.

ill bill bachelor · Post by **ill bill bachelor** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:51 pm

d.same wrote:the wobble is a very distinctive feature of dubstep. Can´t imagine the genre without it.

I wake up with : WOOOB WOOOB WOB WOA WOB

and go to bed with : WOB WOB WOAB WOB WOB WOAB

sometimes I take after a short break I can easily take some of the bigger

WOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAOAAAAAOAAAAOAAAAOAAAOAAAOAAOAAOB.

nuff said!

the wiggle baron · Post by **the wiggle baron** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:56 pm

Yeah, i reckon the wobble is a fairly integral part of dubstep, its like saying rock bands arent "thinking outside the box" or whatever cos they all have guitars. It is following a formula, but that formula = the genre.

I know its not quite that black and white, but try and avoid dubstep "cliches" all the way and you'll just be left with a bpm. And kode9.

benjybars · Post by **benjybars** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:35 pm

Batfink wrote:i don't get this hating on wobble or any aspect of the sound (e.g halfstep) for that matter. Not every tune has to reinvent the fucking genre. If it makes my head nod then i'm into it. end of.

wheel dat post!

allrise · Post by **allrise** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:58 pm

well as a fresh fan of dub step i am a novice. the terms and elements of dub are only slightly a bit of a mystery to me. but, and do correct me if i am wrong, is it not the wobble that almost completely makes 'surgery' by kromestar the song that it is.

spooKs · Post by **spooKs** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:00 pm

nah thats not really a wobble in the way most people mean it - check out Caspa - Rubber Chicken, Benga - Wobblers (lol), Skream & Loefah - 28g, etc etc etc

the wiggle baron · Post by **the wiggle baron** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:21 pm

Rubber chicken

allrise · Post by **allrise** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:41 pm

ah yes, rubber chicken makes the wobble effect very obvious, thank you!
what is not obvious to me is the previous comment stating that
without wobble is no dub step. i dont think i hear that all the time. and then again i have learned that dub step has no rules! however, it has a definitive sensation-you know it when you hear it.

listening to one of dj whistla's sets makes me flip my wig though. i guess its the down tempo swing (?) -or some term i am not clear on.

p.s. did someone accuse me of being autistic?

drsh · Post by **drsh** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:17 am

Anyone else getting bored with them?

say this to Coki...

ikarai · Post by **ikarai** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 1:50 am

allrise wrote: p.s. did someone accuse me of being autistic?

dont cry bruv, thats just his sig lol!!

jackquinox · Post by **jackquinox** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:59 am

Couldnt even really be arsed to read through half of this thread but lets face it i see caspa - rubber chicken neck mentioned a few times, a record that in the timeline of dubstep i havent heard played out for a while. You seem to fail to mention so many other records that have influences from all over the shop that are being played out alot. Like someone said earlier if you would have heard pinchs set then n-types set at DMZ/exodus last saturday you would know there is nothing stale going on in dubstep at the momment such varying styles.

municiple · Post by **municiple** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:35 am

I think it is good to take breaks off some music and diversify. I rec some Stevie Wonder to clear out the cobwebs of monotony and bring in some good, clean optimism.

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