wormcode wrote: ...but I'd still be very wary when it's still illegal, only called something else by the government. Best to avoid getting caught altogether. There's so many different local laws to consider, but some cities and states it will always be much better than others, like California as someone else mentioned. Based on my experiences there it's not really an issue these days.
Agreed. Even though it's easier to get a med card here than a loaf of bread (you just have to say "oh, I can't sleep without it" or something like that... Pow! You get a prescription, real professional doctor-like...) I'm probably just being paranoid, but I still haven't signed up because there's something about having my name on a list somewhere, and knowing that the list is seizable - there's something that doesn't totally sit well with me there.
In fact, it seems to me that sometimes stoners could stand to learn just a little bit more discretion, especially you young'uns who take it for granted that everybody's cool with it: they're not. And you blowing smoke in their face and talking about the founding fathers using hemp to write the Constitution on, well, that ain't gonna help either. If you don't give them anything to make issue of, it won't be an issue. Simple as that.
wormcode wrote:I think in the US it will turn out to be like gambling eventually, where some cities have it legalised but most do not. It will spread from there, but I don't think we'll ever see it on a national level during our lifetime. Still too many flat out prohibitionists involved in the government. They are getting old though...
I used to think that all it would take is for all those square-ass politicians who came of age in the 40's and 50's to die or retire and we'd be set, but sadly there's a whole new generation of prohibitionists spouting the same old weak/wrong shit -
gateway drug blahblahblah criminal money blahblahblah weed now is 8700 times more potent blahblahblah.
yoseph wrote:do you really think the price will go up if its legalized? taxes or no, once anyone can walk in off the street and buy a bag its a safe bet that prices will drop, right? i'm curious about the effect on the underground economy that has grown up around weed in CA, i know of a lot of people who's livelihoods are based on (or at least supplemented by) growing, trimming or selling pot. i suppose everyone who doesnt want to get legal will just concentrate on moving it out of state. to all you poor suckers that dont live here.
Another thing about the ballot initiative we have coming up in California (to more completely decriminalize) - it's sponsored by the people who stand to gain the most by freezing the current arrangement, which in most cases means that the existing cannabusinesses will be grandfathered in and new operations will either be prohibited, highly restricted, or just made financially inconceivable via permits and whatnot.
These guys are, in a sense, the Al Capones of the ganj world over here because they have a pretty sweet racket (grow shops and canna clubs can make serious bank) - hell, they're openly and semi-legally charging
black market rates already ($65 an eighth?! $400 an oz?!?!?! FUCK THAT.) The proposed legislation
WILL take that already-absurd price even
higher, because they're adding a big chunk of tax onto the back of those already inflated prices.
The only hope IMHO as a counter to this influx of legitimized greed into 'head' culture is home growing. If people can grow their own it becomes a check on the power of the colluding politicians and ganja barons.
-dubson- wrote:People beleive that this will change anything?
Pistonsbeneath wrote:WAKE THE FUCK UP!
Yeah guys. Let's just not do anything any which way... that'll show 'em. Fuck effort, fuck change, fuck all that.
And why the hell would you troll a ganja thread if you're so cynical about the subject?
