What Is Grime?

[briskisgoodforu]

Can someone from the UK please explain to this American what grime is. I dunno if I get it. Is it 130 bpm british rap? And they rap faster and emphasize different down beats than hip hop?

[fractal]

it came from UKG (or UK garage) it's mostly 140bpm

http://www.scribd.com/mobile/documents/2389520

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grime_(music)


google is your friend

[sigbowls]

people dont know what grime is in cali?

[mashmash]

basically, grime started off like this, wasn't called that back then though



and is now like this

[malstromabuser]

This is Grime...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOjrzTlDmEU

[fractal]

[briskisgoodforu]

people dont know what grime is in cali?

hah dude cmon, no one takes british rap seriously in the states. I don't think I even know anyone whose even tried to listen to it. I was just looking it up out of curiosity.


I still don't see what defines it. How is it not just rap, but with a faster beat, and a fast flow? I mean I guess its not really hip hop cuz its doesn't have the same roots and the whole sampling thing and general amen break, but is that all it needs to be it's own thing?

[hackman]

and is now like this

erm, that's not grime
funky maybe?

[dj seizure]

and is now like this

erm, that's not grime
It's funky

[hackman]

yeah i knew it was funky before i posted it, was just trying to be sarcastic and patronising

[HRKRT]

people dont know what grime is in cali?

hah dude cmon, no one takes british rap seriously in the states. I don't think I even know anyone whose even tried to listen to it. I was just looking it up out of curiosity.


I still don't see what defines it. How is it not just rap, but with a faster beat, and a fast flow? I mean I guess its not really hip hop cuz its doesn't have the same roots and the whole sampling thing and general amen break, but is that all it needs to be it's own thing?

i think that from the subject matter, style of instrumental, and lyrics you can easily tell a grime tune from a hip hop tune. also i listen to a lot of grime, but not a lot of hip hop (anymore) so it is important for it to be its own thing. Ultimatly its come from different roots ie. the UK garage scene.

[mashmash]

and is now like this

erm, that's not grime
funky maybe?

i was saying that this is what people are calling grime these days

[mashmash]

people dont know what grime is in cali?

hah dude cmon, no one takes british rap seriously in the states. I don't think I even know anyone whose even tried to listen to it. I was just looking it up out of curiosity.


I still don't see what defines it. How is it not just rap, but with a faster beat, and a fast flow? I mean I guess its not really hip hop cuz its doesn't have the same roots and the whole sampling thing and general amen break, but is that all it needs to be it's own thing?

It's not 'british rap'. a lot of it may just sound similar to hip-hop today but the difference is grime is a lot less sample based unlike hip-hop where the beat is nearly all just samples. more of an emphasis on the bass as well, and grime is usually 140bpm compared to 80-100 for hip-hop and the beat can vary from a half-step pace to whatever. dubstep and grime have similar roots and didn't really have any hip-hop influence when it started at all. Just because there are MCs spitting over the beats, it doesn't make it hip-hop. UK hip-hop is very different.
like this

[butterz]

grime is still difficult to define to me

[legend4ry]

people dont know what grime is in cali?

hah dude cmon, no one takes british rap seriously in the states. I don't think I even know anyone whose even tried to listen to it. I was just looking it up out of curiosity.


I still don't see what defines it. How is it not just rap, but with a faster beat, and a fast flow? I mean I guess its not really hip hop cuz its doesn't have the same roots and the whole sampling thing and general amen break, but is that all it needs to be it's own thing?

i think that from the subject matter, style of instrumental, and lyrics you can easily tell a grime tune from a hip hop tune. also i listen to a lot of grime, but not a lot of hip hop (anymore) so it is important for it to be its own thing. Ultimatly its come from different roots ie. the UK garage scene.

Indeed. I remember a few UK Hiphop people saying that Grime IS Englands answer to hiphop, in as "street music" (even though I hate words like "street" and "urban" .....) so I guess in non-'it came from uk garage' terms, you could say its Englands take on hiphop.

I personally live by the 'it came from ukg' theory haha..

Either way grime is messy and theres some instrumentals what you'd go absolutely doolally over and its worth investing time into learning the roots and progression to its (in my opinion) dreadful decline.

[jungletime21]

people dont know what grime is in cali?

hah dude cmon, no one takes british rap seriously in the states. I don't think I even know anyone whose even tried to listen to it. I was just looking it up out of curiosity.

i wouldn't speak for everyone in the states man, there's some serious british heat that i'm aware of, love this video too haha



ill let you off the hook since its our independence day

[HRKRT]

grime is still difficult to define to me

jokes


to be fair grime has really been pushed to some different places recently, butterz show perfect example of this


refuses to be boxed

[ruckus49]

its like uk hiphop with dancehall

[mt eden]

its like uk hiphop with dancehall

britcore died years ago

[force1]

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