The Reason for Re-Sampling Basses - Tell Me?

[deadly_habit]

it generally is due to save resources when they get close to maxing
it also degrades the sound the more you do it, so it can be an effect
also it's easier having a couple automation lanes vs like 30

[green plan]

Yeah think I'ma get into this.

P.s awesome discussion about frequency splitting and some re-sampling I think in this thread on GHF:
http://glitchhopforum.com/glitchhop-pro ... -t416.html

[nowaysj]

I think you can largely do everything in automation if you get down like that (bat shit crazy). I do. But resampling, I find, leads you to unexpected results. Maybe it's because I suck, but crazy audio accidents are often far more interesting than my ideas.

[deadly_habit]

I think you can largely do everything in automation if you get down like that (bat shit crazy). I do. But resampling, I find, leads you to unexpected results. Maybe it's because I suck, but crazy audio accidents are often far more interesting than my ideas.

its like when i see resos screenshots of his tunes
i know i do the same, but i resample so i dont have like 101 diff lanes going

[ENZA]

I've found that re-sampling my bass it deffo makes them sound bigger and badder (in a good way). I think this is down to giving low frequencies their own space, and even more volume than the higher frequencies, if you want it bass heavy for example. Also you wouldn't want to be putting distortion or movement on the lower frequencies or they'll lose some of their power. I tend to split my bass into three, subs, lows and then the rest.

Subs -> Compression, EQ
Lows -> Compression, EQ, Bitcrusher/Small amount of distortion
Everything else -> EQ, Bitcrusher/Lots of distortion/Phaser/Lots of movement etc.

Then I tend to have the subs the loudest, followed by the lows and then the highs so you can just hear them. Send them all to a bus, put a compressor on that, and any EQing you feel it needs, and it should be sounding pretty weighty! Then you can do whatever you want, filters etc.

insight on exactly what ur equing wud look like for each??? please

[Phigure]

I've found that re-sampling my bass it deffo makes them sound bigger and badder (in a good way). I think this is down to giving low frequencies their own space, and even more volume than the higher frequencies, if you want it bass heavy for example. Also you wouldn't want to be putting distortion or movement on the lower frequencies or they'll lose some of their power. I tend to split my bass into three, subs, lows and then the rest.

Subs -> Compression, EQ
Lows -> Compression, EQ, Bitcrusher/Small amount of distortion
Everything else -> EQ, Bitcrusher/Lots of distortion/Phaser/Lots of movement etc.

Then I tend to have the subs the loudest, followed by the lows and then the highs so you can just hear them. Send them all to a bus, put a compressor on that, and any EQing you feel it needs, and it should be sounding pretty weighty! Then you can do whatever you want, filters etc.

insight on exactly what ur equing wud look like for each??? please

Well it depends entirely on what you're EQing. Unfortunately there's no definitive "BOOST THESE FREQUENCIES BY THIS MUCH, AND CUT THESE FREQUENCIES BY THIS MUCH". just boost some frequencies that make it sound better, and cut some that make it sound worse.

[SunkLo]

Another way it's useful is if say you have a saw wave and you're using an EQ to boost or cut certain harmonics. If you play a different note the eq notches/bumps aren't going to be in the same place relative to the harmonics. So it's sort of a way to make a curve sound like it's part of the source since your eq isn't keytracking. You can look at it as a sort of physical modeling thing. If you have processing that would theoretically change depending on notes (say harmonic balance on a string) then resample. If it's something that would stay static (like a resonating chamber) then leave it as an effect.

[Depone]

Also... think about it, if you have say a flanger, or say a ringshifter... once its bounced that effect speed will change when you play up n down on they keys.

Its also a work tool. so say.. on i have distorted... >resample >now i have that im going to blah blah blah.

[ENZA]

Thanks for the info!

imma explore this new realm.

[paravrais]

Hmm some interesting ideas here i've never tried before. Though I think I do a lot of what people are resampling for without doing it. When I make a bass I normally make it with 4 seperate subtractors.

Sub with a sine and triangle usually then i put different effects and filters/eq on each of the subsequent layers and automate the effects devices and waveforms etc on each of them seperately...is there still more to gain from resampling for me? seems like a LOT of extra time and effort to put in for basically the same results?? Or do I seriously not understand it still? :s

[kejk]

I've found that re-sampling my bass it deffo makes them sound bigger and badder (in a good way). I think this is down to giving low frequencies their own space, and even more volume than the higher frequencies, if you want it bass heavy for example. Also you wouldn't want to be putting distortion or movement on the lower frequencies or they'll lose some of their power. I tend to split my bass into three, subs, lows and then the rest.

Subs -> Compression, EQ
Lows -> Compression, EQ, Bitcrusher/Small amount of distortion
Everything else -> EQ, Bitcrusher/Lots of distortion/Phaser/Lots of movement etc.

Then I tend to have the subs the loudest, followed by the lows and then the highs so you can just hear them. Send them all to a bus, put a compressor on that, and any EQing you feel it needs, and it should be sounding pretty weighty! Then you can do whatever you want, filters etc.

insight on exactly what ur equing wud look like for each??? please

Well it depends entirely on what you're EQing. Unfortunately there's no definitive "BOOST THESE FREQUENCIES BY THIS MUCH, AND CUT THESE FREQUENCIES BY THIS MUCH". just boost some frequencies that make it sound better, and cut some that make it sound worse.

Don't forget that cutting frequencies can sound great. (Notch filtering)

[HEATA]

nothing technical.. Just other workflow and interpertations. You limit yourself with bouncing your stuff, so you gonna find other solutions you might wont get if you automate. Its just personal imo

I feel the other way..when you bounce your files they can be placed anywhere despite the automation guidelines IMO

[almostskate100]

if you use ableton live, each slot in the drum rack has an lfo. so do crazy modulations before the lfo (if you use it at all) then try slicing it up in the rack. lots of possibilities

I DO use Ableton.

Can you explain this a bit better? Are you writing a bassline, slicing it to a drumrack and then using different LFOs for different notes and replaying new melodies or just recreating your original pattern with different LFO settings.

PS: VERY COOL IDEA

Wait, I'm still not entirely clear on how this works...so you make a bassline midi track, say 4 bars long or whatever, and resample it, slice it to a drumrack, then what? Really curious, so any clarification would be appreciated